Mixed Martial Arts, One of the oldest forms of fighting.

[Garland]

uh...
uh...
what happened?

[DickHardman]

i have a legit question for you boar. i am not here to put you down or anyones art, and in fact i am open to learning something new from any martial artist from any style.

how do you go about training a deadly throw like the ones you describe realistically against resisting opponents? do you guys start sparring and then just stop short of finishing it? is it more like uchikomi were you just feel out the position instead of actually completing it? whats the deal? no insults, no ego, nothing. u dont have to give your secrets away, but at least give me a legit answer. and if you dont want to post here, then please give me a pm with some info i can use.

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

i have a legit question for you boar. i am not here to put you down or anyones art, and in fact i am open to learning something new from any martial artist from any style.

how do you go about training a deadly throw like the ones you describe realistically against resisting opponents? do you guys start sparring and then just stop short of finishing it? is it more like uchikomi were you just feel out the position instead of actually completing it? whats the deal? no insults, no ego, nothing. u dont have to give your secrets away, but at least give me a legit answer. and if you dont want to post here, then please give me a pm with some info i can use.

I thought you were the great Sherwinc!

4 throws x 8 palms controlled by one principle...convinced?

[DickHardman]

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

I thought you were the great Sherwinc!

4 throws x 8 palms controlled by one principle...convinced?

you seemed pretty eager to tell others how much their training was wrong and yours was right. seems like you had a whole lot to say until people started asking real questions.

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

you seemed pretty eager to tell others how much their training was wrong and yours was right. seems like you had a whole lot to say until people started asking real questions.

Until a question I already posted about in the CMA forums is brought up, and the trolling my every post stops I wont be either...Have you read what I already posted in the CMA forums? Do you know what Cracking is? Then even if I did explain the training you wouldn't understand it's method... I would have to teach you a vocabulary, a technique, a number of principles and a training method... I'll never get that far due to all the nonsense trolling...besides the fact, it isn't my job to teach you the essentials of an art you don't know the first thing about... Especially since the CMA forums are full of your nonsense or are you not Sherwinc as you claimed? So again, why should I waste my time educating a self admitted troll? People who didn't troll my old posts got videos and invites to class to see for themselves trolls got or ignored. I wont bother with explaining an art just so trolls can try to look cool trolling it, 10 people all jump in and want responses...then when I cant keep up you declare victory because 10 people with no idea about the art can shout down one who does, no thanks been there done that. I'll wait for the "experts" to show how little they really know about the things they stopped me from talking about.

[DickHardman]

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Until a question I already posted about in the CMA forums is brought up, and the trolling my every post stops I wont be either...Have you read what I already posted in the CMA forums? Do you know what Cracking is? Then even if I did explain the training you wouldn't understand it's method... I would have to teach you a vocabulary, a technique, a number of principles and a training method... I'll never get that far due to all the nonsense trolling...besides the fact, it isn't my job to teach you the essentials of an art you don't know the first thing about... Especially since the CMA forums are full of your nonsense or are you not Sherwinc as you claimed? So again, why should I waste my time educating a self admitted troll? People who didn't troll my old posts got videos and invites to class to see for themselves trolls got or ignored. I wont bother with explaining an art just so trolls can try to look cool trolling it, 10 people all jump in and want responses...then when I cant keep up you declare victory because 10 people with no idea about the art can shout down one who does, no thanks been there done that. I'll wait for the "experts" to show how little they really know about the things they stopped me from talking about.

you keep talking about trolls, but since you returned thats all you have been. are you looking for symapthy here? if you are that bitter and angry still then leave, no need to become a troll.

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

you keep talking about trolls, but since you returned thats all you have been. are you looking for symapthy here? if you are that bitter and angry still then leave, no need to become a troll.

Why not, isnt that what this boards for? PLEASE don't tell me its for discussing the arts... thats been proven wrong, it's clearly a board for trolling Sherwinc, convinced?

[DickHardman]

who is sherwin?

[BoarSpear]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

who is sherwin?

The person you claimed to be in this post.

Originally Posted by DickHardman

my other screen name used to be sherwinc.....


convinced????

You want a link to the thread? You're either a liar or a full time troll or both, either way.

Oh what the hell...post numbers 158 and 160 tell the whole story.
http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...614#post250614

[DickHardman]

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

The person you claimed to be in this post.



You want a link to the thread? You're either a liar or a full time troll or both, either way.

Oh what the hell...post numbers 158 and 160 tell the whole story.
http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...614#post250614

thats not true either

[Uke]

Originally Posted by DickHardman

thats not true either

Its absolutely true.

[Uke]

The way an intelligent man fights is designed around the most lethal ways that he can be harmed and/or killed which are edged weapons and firearms. His goal is to work smarter, not harder. His training is geared to maximize his efforts by being armed and dirty, not to be fair or fun.

This is the one passage that summed up our last debate which you glossed over, Mike Brewer. You're not even arguing from a point of fact or experience. You've been real subtle about not including any fact or supporting examples, Mike. And up until now, we've all been sucked into what you're doing.

Mike Brewer is NOT arguing that MMA does anything that we say it doesn't. The reason that his argument still exists is because he's cleverly constructed his argument to imply that "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE". So while we've been providing facts and examples, his argument is predicated on anything being possible which is undeniably true. MMA and any other system of training could conceivably achieve any level with the right focus, instruction and a total revamp of its curriculum. That’s basically saying that if you hired the top self defense/urban combatives instructors and had them teach MMA athletes to use the best methods while continuing to train them with the superior sport medicine and conditioning methods then MMA athletes would be street competent. No shit.

So basically, anyone can do anything under the right conditions is Mike’s argument. My argument this entire time is that with the current curriculum and MMA framework, MMA is NOT currently equipped to do anything passed the borders of what it is already doing, which is purely sport kickboxing and submission wrestling. It appears that Mike Brewer attempted to make it seem as though Boarspear, IPON and myself were saying that MMA was useless and COULD NOT learn to implement combatives in an effort to be realistic, when in reality we were all saying that the current framework is sportive at best and it is ridiculous to compare its current skill-set to those of weapon based combat systems.

Its ashamed that you have to play semantics games in order to look like you have something useful to say.

[jubaji]

The same thing over and over and over...

[knifethrower]

Originally Posted by jubaji

The same thing over and over and over...

That's rich comming from you dude----------

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by knifethrower

That's rich comming from you dude----------

Thank you very much.