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Those blokes won't be crowing, mate--they'll be groaning. Groaning in horror as Fujita offers crowd members pictures for five pounds a pop to pose next to the now-limp and unconscious Tyson, mouth agape and druel running onto the canvas.
And, really: what better way to celebrate the pathetic--yet welcome--demise of this one-trick pony with the acorn-sized brain? I'd rather watch another bloody Lewis-Holyfield wheelchair snoozer then sod-all Tyson and his parasitic posse come parading into the ring again, ready to soil the sweet science for the umpteenth time. Why is it that no opponent can seem to do what a caucasian jury in Indiana did against this useless-after-three-round retard: make him go away? One held faint hope that equally-retarded Golota might get so worked up about the headbutting and ear nibbling that he'd at least groin shot this f***ing tuna sandwich into... well, at least not reproducing--which is even more horrifying than the thought of flipping on HBO and seeing Tyson holding a belt aloft: the idea that Spawn of Melonhead II: The Sequel could be in the making. Let us pray that it does indeed happen, because Fujita will barely break a sweat as he mounts, pounds, stuffs and displays this Tyson bloke in under a minute. Oh, what I wouldn't pay to see the overhead camera shot of Tyson squealing under Fujita--only his flailing limbs visible--before Fujita beats him into a permanent career as a charity infomercial example. One savors the thought. Does us all the favor, Fujita. Cheers! [Edited by Steed on 02-22-2001 at 07:34 AM] |
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I didn't find Fujita impressive at all when he fought low blood sugar Kerr and Ken bailed because of his knee so what's so impressive about Fujita. He didn't know what to do with Kerr even being on top.
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Oh, don't worry, mate--there'll be no confusion once our hero Fujita is mounted atop that speech-impaired gargoyle!
Pound, pound, pound away! Until that Christmas-light-string-bulb-sized brain flickers out and Mr. Won't-Go-Away takes a good nappie, while you borrow a cell phone from one of his dazed-looking posse to call his wife, whom you inform that you are available should she require some "real" servicing. Of course, somebody's got to clean up the mess, which is why the attendants with shovels and a good-sized wastecan should be kept close by. |
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Fujita isn't a loser.
He's not the greatest in MMA, but he sure does beat opponents that should have beaten him. Everyone thought he'd lose to Hans Nyman because Fujita is inexperienced, and guess who won. Everyone thought he'd lose to Mark Kerr because Mark Kerr is a superior wrestler and the best Heavyweight on earth, and guess who won. Everyone though he'd lose to Ken Shamrock because Shamrock can box now and can easily submit Fujita, and guess who won. Finally, everyone though Yvel would beat the living hell out Fujita, and well, didn't happen. Now I know Yvel can't punch as good as Tyson, but come on, do you honesltly believe Fujita isn't going to be able to take him down instantly? Fujita taking down Tyson is going to be easier then for Tyson to knock out Fujita. Actually, Fujita has never (and probably never will) fought anyone who is this easy for him to take down. Trust me, Antonio Inoki is smarter then Mike Tyson; and if Inoki didn't get knocked out by a VASTLY superior boxer (Ali) to Tyson, then what makes you think that a better wrestler than Inoki like Fujita wouldn't have an easier time, with rules that favor the MMAer more then the boxer?
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Shamrock wasn't that bad, he just gassed and he admitted it. The Kerr win was a combination of Kerr not being 100% and Fujita's skill and determination. If you think Fujita isn't a top 10 HW, then pass me some of that shit you're smoking...
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Please note that I NEVER said that Fujita is a great fighter, but his wrestling skills take him a long way. A loser wouldn't be able to be Mark Kerr on his worst day, let alone a blood sugar problem. I'm not saying its not a big disadvantage, but it shouldn't even be enough to where a B-level fighter could beat him. Fujita is a good fighter, and beating Tyson in theory should be easy
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I doubt this fight will ever happen. Assuming it does and Tyson is wearing nhb gloves, I'm betting Tyson will DESTROY Fujita. Even if Fujita is able to take Tyson down before taking a shot, Tyson could still knock him out on the ground. If Fujita takes the G&P strategy, he won't be able to stop Tyson...Tyson will easily take his strikes. Fujita's only chance would be to get a submission without taking a couple of hard shots.
Just because you put a boxer on the ground doesn't mean he is going to lose. There has never been a boxer of Tyson's caliber in NHB. Those who underestimate boxing will be surprised. Tim |
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Tim:
Nice to see you posting! Thanks for your opinion. I'm skeptical that a boxer lying flat on his back under the mount could do much to the guy on top. No one in their right mind underestimates Tyson's KO power standing, but I can't imagine a scenario where he could withstand a prolonged G&P + Submission attack. Sure, he can take punches, but can he take elbows, knees, neck cranks, keylocks, etc.? I just don't see it. However, you probably know something I don't.
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I seriously doubt that this fight will ever happen as well. Of course if the number being bandied about here are true ($30,000,000?!?!?) anything could happen.
If Tyson were to get mounted, I doubt he could do too much from his back. There was a fight in the very early UFC's of a classic boxer against the police officer (can't remember his name). The boxer was real tough but eventually got arm barred. The mount pretty much neutralized him. |
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Hi,
I think it would be highly unlikely for Tyson to lose to G&P. He's too well conditioned to taking hard shots. Fujita can't hit hard enough to hurt him. Yes, I do think he can withstand the elbows and knees, as long as they don't cut him. I do think it is possible for him to lose to a submission though. Americana, you can't remember the boxers name because he is a nobody in the boxing world. His name is Art Jimmerson (http://www.ipcress.com/box/jimmer.html). There is a world of difference between him and Tyson! When he was in the UFC they really talked him up as a great boxer when in fact he isn't. He is a good puncher compared to other UFC fighters at the time, but now when compared to other boxers. Tyson also has more at his disposal than just boxing. True, he is a boxer, but that doesn't mean he can't utilize methods other than boxing. Physically, he too can throw elbows, knees and can defend himself in the clinch. He can also rely on mental toughness, speed, endurance, strength, explosiveness, quick reflexes and killer instinct. Tim |
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