Guy attacks you...

[jubaji]

Originally Posted by gabbah

I dunno man... a friend like that needs to change his behaviour. He doesn't need a helping hand to attack people when he's drunk. If he attacks someone he deserves to pay for it, otherwise (if you help him fight) you guys are TWO assholes making the streets unsafe for innocent people, and being successful at it none the less. I prefer one asshole getting knocked out instead, and maybe realising that he deserved it... then maybe next time he won't start trouble again.

You give your friend that little speech the next day. When the shit hits the fan you help your buddy. Unless you are really a little chicken shit and are hiding behind those excuses to keep your own ass out of a scrap...

[gabbah]

If he was a close buddy I guess I would help him, but then again, if he was close I would also not let him get into the fight in the first place. I wouldn't want friends who picks fights for no reason.
As it turns out, my "buddy" obviously wanted to fight that guy, and he got his wish granted. What neither he nor I knew was that he had friends nearby, and they jumped in after 3 seconds had passed, and after another 2-3 seconds my buddy was knocked out, and my attacker stopped attacking, and I went over to my buddy. The guys left. I checked if my buddy was ok (breathing and bones in face were ok), and made sure someone called an ambulance.

Sure, it would have been better if only that guy was in the fight, and it was a one on one fight. But I feel no obligation to help a guy out who is not a close friend, when he decides to attack someone for no reason. Sure, I feel sorry for him too, but in a way he got what he deserved.
I told him exactly what happened the day after, and he was chocked to hear he had done that and apologized several times for fucking our night up so badly. We were having a blast until he started the trouble.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

I can see your point.....but still, help a friend in need

[Tom Yum]

Originally Posted by knifehand

sorry fellas but nice guys DO finish last.....if someone is out to harm you or your friends then be a man and a friend and take care of business.....otherwise join a monastery if you want to be nice to would be attackers........i read about nice guys all the time getting assaulted because they underestimated the threat in their face.....if a man throws his fist at you then drunk or not he intends to do you serious harm......and believe me when you wake up the next day and your eye is black or your teeth are missing you'll probably say " shit i wish i took care of business".

I guess it boils down to how well the attackers stalked their victims.

Did you read about Chai Vang in the midwest?

He was a relatively peacfull man, who served in the Army national guard, attained a sharpshooter qualification badge and was awarded a good conduct medal during his service. He was also an avid hunter, usually going alone.

There was an escalation of sorts involving 6 or 7 people. My guess is that they outnumbered him and said something bordering derogatory and threatening. He shot them and walked away without remorse.

That's plain cold.

Another example is Lance Thomas, the jeweler who got ambushed and held at gun point several times and managed to shoot his way out of each escalation. He wasn't trying to be a Rambo, he was just trying to stay alive.

These men seemed like easy targets.

[Sagacious Lu]

Originally Posted by jubaji

Yup, the sign of true friendship is when you get involved in a stupid fight that your stupid friend started 'cause he was drunk. Yell at him about it the next day, but when your friend needs a hand it doesn't matter if he was 'right' or not.

I agree with you... but if one of my friends makes a habit out of this sort of thing I start distancing myself from them.

[Tom Yum]

Originally Posted by Sagacious Lu

I agree with you... but if one of my friends makes a habit out of this sort of thing I start distancing myself from them.

Ditto.

You can say what you want to your friend, but you can't change him (or her) even if your intentions are good and you're pulling them out of trouble.

You can't change people, Lu - especially if they are generally ignorant or unwilling to engage your concern.

[g-bells]

i don't mean to jump into and side track ,but how about a quick jeet kick-elbow-2 thumbs in the eyes- and BANG a headbutt?

[Jiu-fu fighter]

thanks for going back on topic

[WildWest.]

As far as the original post goes......there are too many variables.

[gabbah]

Originally Posted by WildWest.

As far as the original post goes......there are too many variables.

Well just make them up, foo!

[Garland]

Fall to your knees and start screaming "kill me!!! come on fucker...life's not worth living! just do me a favor!" then start sobbing, and watch the guy's eyes widen and then see him walk away.

[Mephariel]

Jimmy Kimmel asked Chuck Liddell the same question. If a guy charges at you, what do you do? Liddell said he is a striker so he would just straight punch the guy. I bet Hughes would have looking to shoot. There is no one answer to this question. Just depends on your art.

[WildWest.]

Originally Posted by gabbah

Well just make them up, foo!

Double backflip spinning round house kick to the foot.

[mysteryninja]

Duck, kick him in the groin, and run.

[Garland]

start bashing your own face into things, break a bottle over your head, face plant into a table...etc. Turn the broken piece of bottle towards yourself and scream for him to take it...do you a favor.