The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Hardball** · 04-24-2007, 04:24 PM

O.K., you are up against someone who is an expert kicker. How should you approach the fight? Assumptions: It is a street fight with no rules and no gloves. You don't want to go to the ground but you may end up there anyway. This is a private poll and no one can see your vote except the moderators.

Tom Yum · 04-24-2007, 05:01 PM

Hit low and hard.

Use Thai kicks or if you have hard soled shoes, front snap/push kicks to the shin/knee/thigh/groin.

If the kicker can box and grapple as well, whomever can get the upperhand in that range will probably finish it.

PlasmaShock · 04-24-2007, 07:26 PM

Kick him in the groin followed by a jab then a fast cross or houndhouse. if he evades that, tackle him to the ground before he gets a chance to kick you.

Mako Victim · 04-24-2007, 07:37 PM

^ Gotta agree, first thing you should do is kick the guy in the balls as hard as you can. And when he bends down in pain knee him in the head as hard as you can... After that, there's a whole list of shit you can do

Remeber it's a street fight with no rules, so I would do every little dirty trick possible bite, eye poke anything...

**Hardball** · 04-25-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako Victim

^ Gotta agree, first thing you should do is kick the guy in the balls as hard as you can. And when he bends down in pain knee him in the head as hard as you can... After that, there's a whole list of shit you can do

Remeber it's a street fight with no rules, so I would do every little dirty trick possible bite, eye poke anything...

Remember this guy is a kicking specialist. What is your strategy for getting inside of his kicks?

Tant01 · 04-25-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardball

Remember this guy is a kicking specialist. What is your strategy for getting inside of his kicks?

In the first post we were asked to assume this was a street fight without rules.

My question is how do you know this guy is a "specialist"? Is he wearing his soccer uniform?

A TKD Specialist? Katateka? What is on his feet? Is this guy carrying around his "kicking" trophies?

Hello?

I voted for a hard throw... same old game, put him on the deck.

Most likely by (low) kanibasami.

**Hardball** · 04-25-2007, 04:50 PM

I would recognize his stance for starters.

**Hardball** · 04-25-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tant01

Most likely by (low) kanibasami.

What is that? Scissor takedown?

DickHardman · 04-25-2007, 05:25 PM

if you really want to know how to deal with kicks, learn muay thai. you need to be a good striker with lots of experience dealing with kicks in sparring. legs checks, blocking/destruction with the elbows, footwork, kick catches, are the best ways of dealing with kicks.

muay thai has many subtle strategies to deal with kicks. for example, instead of completely removing your leg from the range of your opponents kick, you can bring it back only just enough so that he clips the top part of his foot on your hardened shin instead. use the points of your elbows to intercept some of his kicks, he wont be throwing kicks much longer. you also learn to cut short the power of other peoples strikes and kicks while you evade and block strikes coming at you.

Tant01 · 04-25-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardball

What is that? Scissor takedown?

Yes.....

**Hardball** · 04-25-2007, 05:41 PM

Would you really try and catch a 90 mph tae kwon do roundhouse?

**Hardball** · 04-25-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tant01

Yes.....

Lucky guess. LOL

Cannon_6 · 04-25-2007, 05:43 PM

Dim mak!!!!

DickHardman · 04-25-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball

Would you really try and catch a 90 mph tae kwon do roundhouse?

we saw the muay thai guy do it to the tkd guy in this clip.

YouTube - Tkd vs muay thai

Tom Yum · 04-25-2007, 06:32 PM

Dick, no matter how many times that fight gets posted, I enjoy watching it. Believe it or not, that TKD guys side kick is hard and you can tell by the smack landing square in the thaiboxers solar plexus. Unfortunately, the thaiboxer probably does 500 situps a day...

I still say its the fighter and not entirely the art. This TKD does much worse.

And this one does much better

View Poll Results: Best Strategy using above assumptions
Try to get inside with devastating punches	5	35.71%
Trade kicks with him but stick to basic kicks	0	0%
Take a chance on going to the concrete	0	0%
Use attack by combination	0	0%
Hit low and hit hard	2	14.29%
Throw him and let the ground do the work	4	28.57%
Shucks, it's a streetfight-pull a weapon	2	14.29%
Get Drunk and Brawl	0	0%
Talk my way out of the situation	0	0%
Other-Reply to thread	1	7.14%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

04-24-2007, 04:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,791 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	How to fight a Kicking Specialist O.K., you are up against someone who is an expert kicker. How should you approach the fight? Assumptions: It is a street fight with no rules and no gloves. You don't want to go to the ground but you may end up there anyway. This is a private poll and no one can see your vote except the moderators. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Calendar year 2009 Crunch Challenge. 39,800/73,000 Calendar Year 2008 Final Crunches 54,000 Last edited by Hardball; 04-24-2007 at 04:28 PM.

04-24-2007, 05:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Hit low and hard. Use Thai kicks or if you have hard soled shoes, front snap/push kicks to the shin/knee/thigh/groin. If the kicker can box and grapple as well, whomever can get the upperhand in that range will probably finish it. Last edited by Tom Yum; 04-24-2007 at 07:52 PM.

04-24-2007, 07:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mako Victim Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 149 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^ Gotta agree, first thing you should do is kick the guy in the balls as hard as you can. And when he bends down in pain knee him in the head as hard as you can... After that, there's a whole list of shit you can do Remeber it's a street fight with no rules, so I would do every little dirty trick possible bite, eye poke anything... __________________

04-25-2007, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,791 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	I would recognize his stance for starters. __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Calendar year 2009 Crunch Challenge. 39,800/73,000 Calendar Year 2008 Final Crunches 54,000

04-24-2007, 07:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
PlasmaShock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 206 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kick him in the groin followed by a jab then a fast cross or houndhouse. if he evades that, tackle him to the ground before he gets a chance to kick you.

04-25-2007, 05:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
DickHardman Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,966 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	if you really want to know how to deal with kicks, learn muay thai. you need to be a good striker with lots of experience dealing with kicks in sparring. legs checks, blocking/destruction with the elbows, footwork, kick catches, are the best ways of dealing with kicks. muay thai has many subtle strategies to deal with kicks. for example, instead of completely removing your leg from the range of your opponents kick, you can bring it back only just enough so that he clips the top part of his foot on your hardened shin instead. use the points of your elbows to intercept some of his kicks, he wont be throwing kicks much longer. you also learn to cut short the power of other peoples strikes and kicks while you evade and block strikes coming at you.

04-25-2007, 05:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,791 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Would you really try and catch a 90 mph tae kwon do roundhouse? __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Calendar year 2009 Crunch Challenge. 39,800/73,000 Calendar Year 2008 Final Crunches 54,000

04-25-2007, 05:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cannon_6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dim mak!!!!

04-25-2007, 06:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Dick, no matter how many times that fight gets posted, I enjoy watching it. Believe it or not, that TKD guys side kick is hard and you can tell by the smack landing square in the thaiboxers solar plexus. Unfortunately, the thaiboxer probably does 500 situps a day... I still say its the fighter and not entirely the art. This TKD does much worse. And this one does much better

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