Lloyd Irvin

blitz · 05-11-2007, 07:58 AM

This guy is pissing me off! He took his Black Belt in BJJ in 3.5 years. His student Mike Fowler took his black belt in 4 years and beat renzo gracie and saulo Ribeiro at ADCC like a week ago. His other student Ryan Hall who is a purple belt, competed in an ADCC superfight against some Renzo Gracie black belt and beat him. Yeah he's pissing me off, I want my black belt in 4 years too!

Anyone buy any of his products? He keeps sending me ads about his products, I can't order any of them since I'm not in the USA. But on a serious note, his websites suck. He has like 20 of them and they have way too much writing and testimonials. Anyway tell me what you think.

eXcessiveForce · 05-11-2007, 08:52 AM

Ryan Hall was a moderator here for a long time.

Who cares about belts or how much time. If an instructor can teach you how to beat blackbelts in a few months, then perhaps it is deserved.

JKDBerlin · 05-11-2007, 10:00 AM

Of course you can order his stuff from outside the US (I know cause I did

)...I like the Grappling Game Plan and his BJJ Seminar DVD. Also Brandon Veras DVD he made. I don't like his Bodyweightbook...nothing new.

Greetings

blitz · 05-11-2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXcessiveForce

Ryan Hall was a moderator here for a long time.

Who cares about belts or how much time. If an instructor can teach you how to beat blackbelts in a few months, then perhaps it is deserved.

I thought it was clear that I was being sarcastic. I respect the guy lol.

blitz · 05-11-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKDBerlin

Of course you can order his stuff from outside the US (I know cause I did

)...I like the Grappling Game Plan and his BJJ Seminar DVD. Also Brandon Veras DVD he made. I don't like his Bodyweightbook...nothing new.

Greetings

I tried ordering the Grappling Game Plan yesterday and it said it wasn't available for my area :S anyway, can you tell me a little about the grappling game plans contents? I still don't get anything about it, all his site says is that it will help your game, in lots and lots of different ways.

eXcessiveForce · 05-11-2007, 10:35 AM

yeah I figured you were being sarcastic. just heading off the whiners.

lorenzodamarith · 05-11-2007, 07:33 PM

hello,

it is possible that lloydirvine and those he trains have experience in other systems. mikefowler is said to have been a wrestler (though to what extent is not known).

still, lloydirvine is known for training some really strong competitors.

thanks.

sapatiero · 05-13-2007, 05:05 AM

The grappling game plan is less about the techniques, and more about helping you to be methodical and efficient in learning bjj. It helps you to organise, set goals, tie techniques together & have an overall strategy, while giving you lots of positive reinforcement.

IMO It's one of those things that you can look at & think it's all commonsense, then realise that you haven't been very organised at all. Then you realise it's a very useful tool.

Good luck with it.

lorenzodamarith · 05-13-2007, 11:44 PM

hello,

agreed. being organized is an often overlooked aspect of training. wonder if the grappling game plan by lloydirvine is similar to the gold mettle plan by rhadiferguson?

thanks.

sapatiero · 05-15-2007, 03:12 PM

Wow - just checked the Rhadi Ferguson Gold thang... And the advertising is remarkably similar, even down to the cheesy sales talk LOL.

They sound very similar. Anyone got both?

blitz · 05-15-2007, 05:36 PM

Their good friends, and I think Rhadi trained with Lloyd too. And yeah they look quite similar from the advertising.

lorenzodamarith · 05-15-2007, 09:42 PM

hello,

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! have heard the same about both of them... great to train with, but.... a bit... esoteric in thier salesmanship.

thanks.

JohnMc · 05-23-2007, 06:25 AM

Anybody buy his Grappling Sponsorship package?

Nick · 05-23-2007, 07:24 PM

I was interested in his Sponsorship package, too, but it's $500, which I'm not willing to spend without hearing about it.

JasonE · 05-24-2007, 02:32 AM

LOL.
Another advertising TROLL.
This simple gimmick is used to stimulate discussion by pretending to be negative while actually presenting some positive facts about the subject of supposed attack. Others have used this annoying tactic on and off for years.

05-11-2007, 07:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
blitz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home Posts: 1,045 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lloyd Irvin This guy is pissing me off! He took his Black Belt in BJJ in 3.5 years. His student Mike Fowler took his black belt in 4 years and beat renzo gracie and saulo Ribeiro at ADCC like a week ago. His other student Ryan Hall who is a purple belt, competed in an ADCC superfight against some Renzo Gracie black belt and beat him. Yeah he's pissing me off, I want my black belt in 4 years too! Anyone buy any of his products? He keeps sending me ads about his products, I can't order any of them since I'm not in the USA. But on a serious note, his websites suck. He has like 20 of them and they have way too much writing and testimonials. Anyway tell me what you think.

05-11-2007, 08:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,835 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Ryan Hall was a moderator here for a long time. Who cares about belts or how much time. If an instructor can teach you how to beat blackbelts in a few months, then perhaps it is deserved. __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive.

05-11-2007, 10:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
JKDBerlin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Berlin / Germany Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Of course you can order his stuff from outside the US (I know cause I did )...I like the Grappling Game Plan and his BJJ Seminar DVD. Also Brandon Veras DVD he made. I don't like his Bodyweightbook...nothing new. Greetings __________________ Frank Burczynski J.A.B. JKD Akademie Berlin + IMAG e.V. http://www.jkdberlin.de "Harder - Faster - More Intention" http://www.kampfkunst-board.info Das deutsche Kampfkunstboard

05-11-2007, 10:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,835 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	yeah I figured you were being sarcastic. just heading off the whiners. __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive.

05-13-2007, 05:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
sapatiero Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 246 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The grappling game plan is less about the techniques, and more about helping you to be methodical and efficient in learning bjj. It helps you to organise, set goals, tie techniques together & have an overall strategy, while giving you lots of positive reinforcement. IMO It's one of those things that you can look at & think it's all commonsense, then realise that you haven't been very organised at all. Then you realise it's a very useful tool. Good luck with it. __________________ SOGH - Smile Or Go Home www.graciejiujitsu.co.za

05-11-2007, 07:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
lorenzodamarith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 365 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello, it is possible that lloydirvine and those he trains have experience in other systems. mikefowler is said to have been a wrestler (though to what extent is not known). still, lloydirvine is known for training some really strong competitors. thanks.

05-13-2007, 11:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
lorenzodamarith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 365 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello, agreed. being organized is an often overlooked aspect of training. wonder if the grappling game plan by lloydirvine is similar to the gold mettle plan by rhadiferguson? thanks.

05-15-2007, 03:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
sapatiero Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 246 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow - just checked the Rhadi Ferguson Gold thang... And the advertising is remarkably similar, even down to the cheesy sales talk LOL. They sound very similar. Anyone got both? __________________ SOGH - Smile Or Go Home www.graciejiujitsu.co.za

05-15-2007, 05:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
blitz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home Posts: 1,045 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Their good friends, and I think Rhadi trained with Lloyd too. And yeah they look quite similar from the advertising.

05-15-2007, 09:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
lorenzodamarith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 365 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! have heard the same about both of them... great to train with, but.... a bit... esoteric in thier salesmanship. thanks.

05-23-2007, 06:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
JohnMc Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Woodside,NY Posts: 15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anybody buy his Grappling Sponsorship package?

05-23-2007, 07:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nick Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 194 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was interested in his Sponsorship package, too, but it's $500, which I'm not willing to spend without hearing about it.

05-24-2007, 02:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
JasonE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	LOL. Another advertising TROLL. This simple gimmick is used to stimulate discussion by pretending to be negative while actually presenting some positive facts about the subject of supposed attack. Others have used this annoying tactic on and off for years. __________________ Jason Erickson, CST, CMT Personal Trainer and Massage Therapist www.CSTMinnesota.com "Be good to yourself. If you don't take care of your body, where will you live?" - Kobi Yamada

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