What creates knockout power?

[JuijitsuMan]

Hardball,

I have all of Sperry instructionals for sale. Gi, NO gi, and NHB/Streetfighting. All consist of gameplans with tons of techniques especially chokes.

No you don't need just 1 or 2 chokes. You need a gameplan that teaches you what to do if your opponent resists each move.

To learn more about what you'd be getting visit groundfighter.com and look up all of Sperrys instructionals. I have them ALL.

No better price than mine.
Contact me at adrian.dsouza@sympatico.ca to buy.

[Hardball]

DVD's or Tapes?

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Originally Posted by JuijitsuMan

I'll tell you what creates great knockout power, a great choke.

Seriously the chances of knocking out your attacker are slim if your not a natural at it. On the other hand almost anyone can produce a successful gi no gi choke.

I have for sale my Sperry instructionals (see thread entitled Sperry no go, gi, NHB instructionals) which focus tons of techniques on chokes.

Stick to the bloody F*cking topic. Either Have something relevant to post or don't post at all. To all people who have stuck to the topic, thanks. To all the other people who typed pointless posts that oozes retardation go F*ck yourselves.

[Hardball]

Originally Posted by Bjjexpertise@be

Stick to the bloody F*cking topic. Either Have something relevant to post or don't post at all. To all people who have stuck to the topic, thanks. To all the other people who typed pointless posts that oozes retardation go F*ck yourselves.

Sorry Bro, no need to over react.

[JuijitsuMan]

Talk about overreacting. This bjjexpertise must either be a 15 year old kid or on some major roids.

[medic06]

Are you here for any other reason than to sell your DVDs??

[JuijitsuMan]

Sure,

I'm here to respond to messages. Like I said in an earlier way the best way to knock out a guy is to choke him out.

[ledfut]

Originally Posted by JuijitsuMan

Sure,

I'm here to respond to messages. Like I said in an earlier way the best way to knock out a guy is to choke him out.

sorry, but when i think "knockout power" i don't think about someone getting choked. i think about someone getting their face blasted in by a kick, punch, or other strike.

in order to knock someone out, you have to knock them, not choke them.

[Hardball]

There is no such thing as a tap in the street.................Knock out, which is loss of consciousness can be done with a choke.

[Uke]

Originally Posted by Hardball

There is no such thing as a tap in the street.................Knock out, which is loss on consciousness can be done with a choke.

Unfortunately there are taps in ther street. Believe it or not people get so used to releasing once someone screams or taps that they instinctively let go. Its no different than when point fighters pull their punches and kicks in the street. They have skill, but many times get their asses kicked because they are extremely conditioned not to land hard shots, especially to the head. Mental conditioning is a very hard thing to shake.

I have to agree that ledfut has a point here. Knockout power implies impact. A choke requires no impact, just constriction, Hardball.

As far as what JujitsuMan stated about choking being the best way to knock a man out, I sort of disagree there. Choking is definitely the most reliable way to knock a man out, but the situation defines whether it is the best. By that I mean that if you are attacked by two or three guys, you may not have the time to choke one of them out. In that scenario, a strike to the jaw or temple would be most ideal because the effect is faster without pinning you down to just one opponent. The problem is that the strike isn't guaranteed to KO your opponent, but in the event that it did that would be the method of choice.

So yeah, the choke is definitely more reliable, but just like a strike it has its drawbacks so its hard to call either best.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Originally Posted by Hardball

Sorry Bro, no need to over react.

I don't think I fully explained myself, so I'm sorry. People veer off topic all the time, that's alright but I was referring to the people like JiujitsuMan who was posting something just to make himself sound smart.

Talk about overreacting. This bjjexpertise must either be a 15 year old kid or on some major roids.

You caught me there, I'm a roid raging mofo thats only 15, maybe if you actually took the time to read the original topic you could type something that's a little more useful. J-Luck was right in that there are too many people in this thread just posting for the sake of seeing their own post.

[jubaji]

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Well said!

[JuijitsuMan]

If you people think choking someone out is not the best efficient way for a knockout your not being realistic.

all you have to do is watch the 1st UFC and see Royce gracie versus some world class kickboxers (who specialize in knockout) NOT knockout Royce on the come in , and get choked into oblivion on the ground.

Now if world class strikers (who weren't aware of his game) couldn't knock him out and yet he choked the out (which is a technical knockout) what makes you think the layman in the street will be more effective?

As for multiple attack, the best technique is to run. Seriously. Build up your sprinting times and get the hell out.

Also people who say chokes will be let go as soon as your opponent taps, and referring to wimps grappling. Royce and other juijitsu men love to leave their chokes on for many seconds after their opponent taps.
I like what royce said : "in competition i stop when the promoters want me to stop, in the street I stop when I WANT to stop."

[makiwara]

Torque: From feet and hips into strikes
From fulcrum for grapples

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Originally Posted by JuijitsuMan

If you people think choking someone out is not the best efficient way for a knockout your not being realistic.

all you have to do is watch the 1st UFC and see Royce gracie versus some world class kickboxers (who specialize in knockout) NOT knockout Royce on the come in , and get choked into oblivion on the ground.

Now if world class strikers (who weren't aware of his game) couldn't knock him out and yet he choked the out (which is a technical knockout) what makes you think the layman in the street will be more effective?

As for multiple attack, the best technique is to run. Seriously. Build up your sprinting times and get the hell out.

Also people who say chokes will be let go as soon as your opponent taps, and referring to wimps grappling. Royce and other juijitsu men love to leave their chokes on for many seconds after their opponent taps.
I like what royce said : "in competition i stop when the promoters want me to stop, in the street I stop when I WANT to stop."

Stop twisting Knockout Power into about chokes, KO Power refers to strikes. PLus, nobody said choking somebody out isn't effective.

And again, you're veering off the topic and throwing up random info just to sound smart. Who here said anything or mentioned anything about multiple attackers? Who said or asked anything about the effectiveness of choking on the streets at all? Stay on topic.