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Old 12-25-2007, 05:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i dont think that its necessary to go to a gym in order to learn, especially the basics (as long as youre smart about it). i just got a bunch of "how to" dvds and books and drilled with friends. theres too many boxing and muay thai books to name, but as for the ground game, heres a dvd and a book:

http://pin2win.com/

http://www.1001submissions.com/

i learned this way, then i tested myself by going to gyms and sparring with people. people were very surprised to learn that i taught myself. and, if anything, it teaches you the basics, and you dont have to waste your money to do so. the cost of the books/dvds are usually around the price for 1 month of training at the most. one good thing about a gym though is that if you have questions, you can always ask someone, and you cant do that at home. but, how hard is it to ask your friend if he thinks a submission is working? im pretty sure theyll tell you if its working or not, unless they are asleep after you do it...then you should know anyway
I'm sorry bro, but if you wrestled with even the sucky BJJ guys at any of the gyms I go to, they'll take you down and pin you.

You won't even submit the boxers I know.

I admit, videos/books enhance learning, I mean, most BJJ guys I know have "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: Theory & Technique", and a bunch have "Mastering The Rubber Guard". I have a couple of other books on guard subs, sweeps and defense. Also, a bunch on wrestling, both for drills, and basic techniques. I have a boxing book, and a couple on Muay Thai.

But, that being said, I have a base in all these styles, and I train them. It's not like I up and picked up a book one day and now I'm halfway decent. I don't know anyone who's EVER done that.
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That's not an MMA routine. That's a kickboxing routine.
Yeah, except we train wrestling and BJJ with it (hence, "MMA").
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Yeah, except we train wrestling and BJJ with it (hence, "MMA").
Maybe you shoulda written that down in the routine smart one.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:21 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Unless your friends are pro or amateur MMA fighters, boxing/kickboxers with at least a few fights, good wrestlers, or purple and above BJJ guys, you need to get a trainer.

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My friends are at and above the level you describe, and so am I.
Wow, you're claiming to be at least at the level of a seasoned amateur fighter yet look at your routine:

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Partner training (drills & sparring) 1-2 days a week.

Bag workout 2 days a week.

Kickboxing aerobics 1-2 days a week.

Exercise bike or real cycling 4-5 days a week.

Weight lifting 4-5 days a week.

First of all, as J-Luck pointed out you haven't mentioned any sort of grappling, secondly, do you really expect us to believe that you can hang with a legitimate amateur boxer or kickboxer with only two bag workouts and two days of "aerobics" a week? You're not fooling anyone but yourself, that's not nearly enough to be a serious competitor even if by some miracle (and it would take a miracle) you stumbled on the proper techniques without a coach. By all means, enjoy your backyard workouts but don't pretend to be something you're not. If you're really that good without any formal training than prove it; enter and win some legitimate amateur fights.
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[quote=Sagacious Lu;287379]Wow, you're claiming to be at least at the level of a seasoned amateur fighter yet look at your routine:

wow, I'm really surprised by the disrespect and resistance I've received in this thread that I started (to be a positive brain stormer not a dick measuring contest). I've been training in martial arts for over 20 years and was an amateur teen boxer and wrestled in college. I've trained with pro mma fighters, done the seminar thing, the class thing, the open gym thing etc... This is my current program. My current program choice is not a comment on YOUR program choice. this is what I enjoy doing for now. I don't give a rat's ass about competition or who the current champ is of the UFC etc... This is just for fun and self exploration for me. To each his own. I'm now bowing out of my own thread. Way too much negativity in here.
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Wow, you're claiming to be at least at the level of a seasoned amateur fighter yet look at your routine:

wow, I'm really surprised by the disrespect and resistance I've received in this thread that I started (to be a positive brain stormer not a dick measuring contest). I've been training in martial arts for over 20 years and was an amateur teen boxer and wrestled in college. I've trained with pro mma fighters, done the seminar thing, the class thing, the open gym thing etc... This is my current program. My current program choice is not a comment on YOUR program choice. this is what I enjoy doing for now. I don't give a rat's ass about competition or who the current champ is of the UFC etc... This is just for fun and self exploration for me. To each his own. I'm now bowing out of my own thread. Way too much negativity in here.

Right, the confidence that comes from twenty years of quality training led you to resort to a homophobic slur when Samurai Guy criticized you
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We have 3 different classes, scheduled different days of the week.

A CLINCH / boxing workout would consist of warming up with pummel drills performed as games for control positions best suited for striking - underhook w/ inside arm control, double underhook, neck tie, double neck tie, etc. After warm up, we'd work a corner drill with entries into the clinch by the guy in the defensive role. From entries in the clinch we'd drill all kinds of striking in the clinch from all positions, and do some strike/throw combinations. Then we'd finish up with a couple of boxing games with lots of emphasis on moving into clinch range and back out into boxing range.

a BOXING / clinch workout, which is the same as the above, but more time spent on boxing than clinch, and more boxing sparring time

A clinch / GROUND workout, wherein we spend some time warming up with pummel drills played as competetive games, with takedowns and takedown coutners - and then spend the majority of our time on the ground drilling control positions, submissions and striking.

And then conditioning days. We're looking at getting together 1 day a week to run hills and push cars. That hasn't happened yet.
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I am also suprised at the reactions from everyone here at this thread. Posting your routine was not to be a competition. Furthermore it is not a measure of how good you are simply because everyone here has no information on the past of the critisized. What they have done in the past is not nessesarily reflected in his current workout. Congratulations, you all have better training routines than the thread maker at this time. Now what? That doesnt make progress on any aspect of life. By posting your own routine you help the reader compare to his own, and also may create questions as to what a specific excercize may be, but the bragging and bashing wasnt, im sure, intended by the thread maker.
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Anyone remember the Tito training regime back in the day? He was getting interviewed post-fight (I think the Tanner fight, not sure). He said he trains 6 days a week and then went on to describe like 8 days worth of schedule...pretty funny how adrenaline added like nearly 48 hours to his schedule...

Anyway remember that any quality training program is flexible in the number of hours in a day, days in a week, etc. if you are being interviewed or posting to a group of folks that don't go to your gym.

Me I train about 26 hours a day, 8-9 days per week. 2 hours of light aerobics (pushing busses up Colorado hillside), 3 hours of calesthenics ( mtn climbers up Pikes Peak, push-ups, sit-ups), 6 hours boxing (spar with Winky Wright, Joe Calzaghe, and Ali before the Parkinson's syndrome), 8 hours Muay Thai (Kaokolai, Buakaw for speed work, Aerts and Bonjaski for heavier hitting), 3 hours weights, 4 hours of anaerobic training (sprints, plyos, etc.), 7 hours grappling (Couture, Verdum, Minutaro), and then I go to work...not a pro yet gotta pay the bills you know.

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