Describe your MMA training program

[Shoot]

I train for fitness, fun, and self defense. Here's my basic program:

Partner training (drills & sparring) 1-2 days a week.

Bag workout 2 days a week.

Kickboxing aerobics 1-2 days a week.

Exercise bike or real cycling 4-5 days a week.

Weight lifting 4-5 days a week.

Obviously there is overlap on some training days.

I don't train at any school. I train with friends (for free!) at our houses or at the gym. I recently added kickboxing aerobics. This has been great for increasing endurance. We've come up with some fantastic drills on our own.

[freeman]

hello shoot,
just read your post and thought it encouraging. 2 of my friends and i r starting the same type of thing (just recently posted "settn up a new shop" and we r excited to get started. all is well? curious about your drills.

[Jujujason]

Monday = kickboxing fr. 5-6pm, mixed martial arts fr. 7-8p & bjj fr. 8-9p

Teusday = thai boxing fr. 6-7pm, kali fr. 8-9p & jkd fr. 9-10p

Wednesday = kali fr. 5-6pm, mma fr. 7-8p, bjj fr. 8-9p & shooto fr. 9-10p

Thurs = silat fr. 7-8p & kali fr. 8-9p

Fri = wooden dummy for an hr

Sat = wooden dummy for a 1/2 hr, savate fr. 9-10a, kali fr. 10-11a & an hr of
grappling at home with either my roomie or my grappling dummy

Sun = kali for an hr, grappling for an hr and 30 mins of conditioning

[Shoot]

Originally Posted by freeman

hello shoot,
just read your post and thought it encouraging. 2 of my friends and i r starting the same type of thing (just recently posted "settn up a new shop" and we r excited to get started. all is well? curious about your drills.

Drills: The goal here is repetition that takes too much time to obtain through sparring.

I gave up the finesse of BJJ for "ground and pound" and focus my grappling training more on escaping common submissions and positions. So we'll do drills like these:

1. Submission escape drills: Start from a submission hold that is at its earliest origin and escape it (e.g. triangle choke not yet sunk in).

2. Guard vs. Strikes: This develops ability to strike while in the guard (instead of passing it) and ability to defend against strikes while someone is in your guard. Try to strike focus mitts or ground near head and body while in partner's guard. Partner tries to defend.

3. Position escape drills: Start from common positions (ie. guard, cross mount, mount) and drill escapes. We also drill kicking out of the guard back to feet. We drill escaping out of the back of someone's guard instead of passing it.

We also do "flow drills" where we ease the resistance to like 50% to drill form over performance. So, here's an easy flow drill: mounted to guard, guard pass to mounted, mounted escape to guard, guard pass to cross mount, cross mounted escape to guard etc....

We also do free sparring on the ground. But, like I said above, I would rather get better at basic grappling for position and being able to strike, then be a submission artist. It works better for me

On our feet we do a lot of grappling drills, such as "wrestler vs. boxer" to work on defending/obtaining clinch or takedown.

I grew up playing sports and believe in drills. You can force repetition that may not exist in simply sparring or "playing the game." Every BJJ or MMA class I've taken has never drilled just very basic things. I'm not bad mouthing BJJ, but when I studied BJJ I was so frustrated. We'd do like 10 repetions of some elaborate move and then "roll" where 98% of what we did was very basic stuff. I would rather drill the living hell out of sweeps, escapes etc...(the basics) where you can get the repetition on these essentials in an hour that would take many hours of rolling to obtain.

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by Shoot

I gave up the finesse of BJJ for "ground and pound" and focus my grappling training more on escaping common submissions and positions.

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Your a tool, the best people in the gym when training "ground and pound" are the best people in the gym when straight grappling.

Another quote from TS "I don't train at any school. I train with friends"

Unless your friends are pro or amateur MMA fighters, boxing/kickboxers with at least a few fights, good wrestlers, or purple and above BJJ guys, you need to get a trainer.

[Shoot]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

Your a tool, the best people in the gym when training "ground and pound" are the best people in the gym when straight grappling.

Another quote from TS "I don't train at any school. I train with friends"

Unless your friends are pro or amateur MMA fighters, boxing/kickboxers with at least a few fights, good wrestlers, or purple and above BJJ guys, you need to get a trainer.

I have a tool, but I'm not one. My friends are at and above the level you describe, and so am I.

Here's a response you can better understand: Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo. Gah, you must feel small now.

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by Shoot

I have a tool, but I'm not one. My friends are at and above the level you describe, and so am I.

Here's a response you can better understand: Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo. Gah, you must feel small now.

At and above the level.... can I see the videos of their kickboxing fights? Wrestling State Championships, Any BJJ matches, who were they awarded their purples and above from?

Dont be a douche and "train" with your friends, get a real gym.

And I noticed you failed to adress my first statement other than claiming your not a tool, are you so lacking in knowledge that you cant even make an attempt to refute it? We both know your not gonna win but you could at least try to save face or something...

[Shoot]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

At and above the level.... can I see the videos of their kickboxing fights? Wrestling State Championships, Any BJJ matches, who were they awarded their purples and above from?

Dont be a douche and "train" with your friends, get a real gym.

And I noticed you failed to adress my first statement other than claiming your not a tool, are you so lacking in knowledge that you cant even make an attempt to refute it? We both know your not gonna win but you could at least try to save face or something...

Get off me, fag.

And to your attempted point--you're simply incorrect. Now get to class, little bitch.

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by Shoot

Get off me, fag.

And to your attempted point--you're simply incorrect. Now get to class, little bitch.

*Sigh, I missed this*

Ahhh its like they delivered the death blow to themselves, resorting to calling the other person some form of homosexual slur and then following it up with trying to emasculate them.

Too funny bud, I know your hurting on the inside but it's okay, you've got two options, well three really, stop "training", continue watching UFC Fight Night and thinking your gonna make it some day, or man up, admit to yourself (I know you wont to me or anyone else) that you are very obviously wrong, and start training for real.

Edit; Oh and in exactly 42 minutes I will be training with my wrestling coach, a national greco champ, who just won a fight on friday via triangle choke in the first round.

[Shoot]

Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

*Sigh, I missed this*

Ahhh its like they delivered the death blow to themselves, resorting to calling the other person some form of homosexual slur and then following it up with trying to emasculate them.

Too funny bud, I know your hurting on the inside but it's okay, you've got two options, well three really, stop "training", continue watching UFC Fight Night and thinking your gonna make it some day, or man up, admit to yourself (I know you wont to me or anyone else) that you are very obviously wrong, and start training for real.

Edit; Oh and in exactly 42 minutes I will be training with my wrestling coach, a national greco champ, who just won a fight on friday via triangle choke in the first round.

I'll pick option 4: Enjoying myself with friends doing something fun while bettering myself physically. The UFC isn't my goal. This is just for fun for me. I've been to many classes and none compare to the workouts we do on our own (for free!). If you like to pay for classes from instructors, then go for it. My intent in starting this thread was not to have a pissing match on who has the best program. It was to brainstorm to get ideas--kind of a positive thing. That's all I have to say to you.

[twtguy]

i dont think that its necessary to go to a gym in order to learn, especially the basics (as long as youre smart about it). i just got a bunch of "how to" dvds and books and drilled with friends. theres too many boxing and muay thai books to name, but as for the ground game, heres a dvd and a book:

http://pin2win.com/

http://www.1001submissions.com/

i learned this way, then i tested myself by going to gyms and sparring with people. people were very surprised to learn that i taught myself. and, if anything, it teaches you the basics, and you dont have to waste your money to do so. the cost of the books/dvds are usually around the price for 1 month of training at the most. one good thing about a gym though is that if you have questions, you can always ask someone, and you cant do that at home. but, how hard is it to ask your friend if he thinks a submission is working? im pretty sure theyll tell you if its working or not, unless they are asleep after you do it...then you should know anyway

[bigboywasim]

I take Muay Thai for a total of six hours a week. That is the max allowed because our place is packed and we have classes the whole week because there are so many kids. Trainer is a pro Thai fighter from Thailand. Right here is Sac Town.

http://www.muaythaithaiboxing.net/

I take BJJ for about eight hours a week. Train under 2nd degree blackbelt from Brazil.

http://www.cassiowerneck.com/content/view/28/42/

On my university wrestling team. Did wrestling in middle and highschool.

Also take Arnis with Combat Hapkido and Full Contact Krate at a local dojo.

I will train MMA at this place. They are about to have MMA classes.

http://www.ultimatefitness.pro/

[SamuraiGuy]

Originally Posted by Shoot

I'll pick option 4: Enjoying myself with friends doing something fun while bettering myself physically. The UFC isn't my goal. This is just for fun for me. I've been to many classes and none compare to the workouts we do on our own (for free!). If you like to pay for classes from instructors, then go for it. My intent in starting this thread was not to have a pissing match on who has the best program. It was to brainstorm to get ideas--kind of a positive thing. That's all I have to say to you.

The point is you dont have a program and if your serious you need to find one, dont be ridiculous. A positive thing from this thread? The advice to go find a real instructor, if your going to do something you might as well do it right.

Take a page from bigboywasim's book...

[Anti]

I do as follows (as closely as my busyness will allow):
Strength Excersizes- 3 days a week
Jogging, etc- 4 days a week
Bagwork and 'Form'- 5 days a week
Navy PT- 1 day a week
Sparring and partner drills - 2 days a week

I also train without schools and with friends whenever we can get together. I wish it was more than it is. I also breakdance most mornings with some friends. Im not good, but its fun and really helps flexibility (and being to but yur body exactly where you want it). Ive come up with some great drills of my own, some with the help of my friends too.
I agree with Shoot, I seem to get more out of it with friends, but at a school you do get more help (and could make new friends to train with other than at school). MA-wise, I concentrate moreso on Muay Thai, Wing Chun, and TaeKwonDo to find a happy medium between the three. I look into and study any MAs that come at me, and my friends all take different approuches aswell making training with my friends worth while.

Everyone trains differently, but its the dedication that provides the progress. It would show in a ring (so-to-speak) more than it would on a forum so everyone should stop arguing. And everyone has their own 'right way'. Instructors arent always the best for everyone.

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[J-Luck]

Originally Posted by Shoot

I train for fitness, fun, and self defense. Here's my basic program:

Partner training (drills & sparring) 1-2 days a week.

Bag workout 2 days a week.

Kickboxing aerobics 1-2 days a week.

Exercise bike or real cycling 4-5 days a week.

Weight lifting 4-5 days a week.

Obviously there is overlap on some training days.

I don't train at any school. I train with friends (for free!) at our houses or at the gym. I recently added kickboxing aerobics. This has been great for increasing endurance. We've come up with some fantastic drills on our own.

That's not an MMA routine. That's a kickboxing routine.