Gracie Fight Analyst: Royler, Royce, Renzo

Americana · 03-31-2001, 03:23 PM

Royler:

1. Choked out by Sperry in sport bjj: Sperry had a huge weight advantage! In any case, it wasn't nhb.

2. Submitted by Sak in Pride: Royler never tapped!

Renzo:

1. Loss by fight stoppage for broken arm to Sak: Renzo was dominating the whole way. Renzo's arm was accidentally broken. Renzo didn't tap!

2. Loss to Henderson by knockout: Another accident befalls Renzo. This time he accidentally knocks himself out shooting for Dan's leg. The tape clearly shows Renzo's head hitting Dan's thigh right before he went out.

Royce:

1. Wallid chokes out Royce in Rio: This was'nt nhb. Royce would kill Wallid in NHB.

2. Royce throws in the towel against Sak: Royce was giving Sak fits throughout the fight. In fact Sak "taps" at one point but it was missed by the ref. Royce's foot was broken somewhere along the line so he can't continue. Royce is still a top middle weight.

Have I missed anything?

03-31-2001, 03:47 PM

Rickson is 400-0.

Except for the sambo match, where he lost to a throw.

Losing to a throw doesn't count.

Ryu (non-working password · 03-31-2001, 04:02 PM

sakattack · 03-31-2001, 04:08 PM

Renzo doesn't make excuses for himself but other Gracies may make excuses for him.

I'd add this:

Royler might have submitted Sak if he wasn't such a chicken and grappled with Royler.

Royce actually dominated Sak the first 4 rounds, "beating him up" (in Royce's words) until Royce couldn't continue.

Mr. Miyagi · 03-31-2001, 07:33 PM

Oh c'mon. I've watched that fight and Royce threw wimpy little pecker punches at Sak that didn't look like they hurt him at all. Sak was not a chicken, if Royler wanted to fight on the ground he should have been able to take the fight there. A tiger can fight a crocodile in the water just fine but they usually go for them on land where they have no chance.

Martial Artist · 03-31-2001, 07:50 PM

ROTFLMSAO!

bobby_steeles · 03-31-2001, 07:58 PM

americana, you must have gotten your @ss royally whooped by a bjj guy to have this kind of vendetta.

Hawk · 04-02-2001, 01:30 PM

What about your all time favorite, Americana?
"Royce would have never beat all those guys if they had any idea about GJJ/BJJ."
Hawk

03-31-2001, 07:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
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04-02-2001, 01:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hawk Master Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,081	What about your all time favorite, Americana? "Royce would have never beat all those guys if they had any idea about GJJ/BJJ." Hawk __________________ You cannot run away from a weakness; Sometimes you must fight it out or perish; And if that be so; Why not now and where you stand.

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03-31-2001, 03:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Americana Novice Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 272	Royler: 1. Choked out by Sperry in sport bjj: Sperry had a huge weight advantage! In any case, it wasn't nhb. 2. Submitted by Sak in Pride: Royler never tapped! Renzo: 1. Loss by fight stoppage for broken arm to Sak: Renzo was dominating the whole way. Renzo's arm was accidentally broken. Renzo didn't tap! 2. Loss to Henderson by knockout: Another accident befalls Renzo. This time he accidentally knocks himself out shooting for Dan's leg. The tape clearly shows Renzo's head hitting Dan's thigh right before he went out. Royce: 1. Wallid chokes out Royce in Rio: This was'nt nhb. Royce would kill Wallid in NHB. 2. Royce throws in the towel against Sak: Royce was giving Sak fits throughout the fight. In fact Sak "taps" at one point but it was missed by the ref. Royce's foot was broken somewhere along the line so he can't continue. Royce is still a top middle weight. Have I missed anything?

03-31-2001, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ronin Guest Posts: n/a	Rickson is 400-0. Except for the sambo match, where he lost to a throw. Losing to a throw doesn't count.

03-31-2001, 04:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ryu (non-working password Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,269	ROTF

03-31-2001, 04:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
sakattack Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 82	Renzo doesn't make excuses for himself but other Gracies may make excuses for him. I'd add this: Royler might have submitted Sak if he wasn't such a chicken and grappled with Royler. Royce actually dominated Sak the first 4 rounds, "beating him up" (in Royce's words) until Royce couldn't continue.

03-31-2001, 07:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719	Oh c'mon. I've watched that fight and Royce threw wimpy little pecker punches at Sak that didn't look like they hurt him at all. Sak was not a chicken, if Royler wanted to fight on the ground he should have been able to take the fight there. A tiger can fight a crocodile in the water just fine but they usually go for them on land where they have no chance.

03-31-2001, 07:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
bobby_steeles Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in front of my computer Posts: 650	americana, you must have gotten your @ss royally whooped by a bjj guy to have this kind of vendetta.

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