Compression holds

[Tant01]

Discuss your favorite variations of the bicep slicer, calf crusher and neck locks. I'd like to know your favorite way to get there and what position(s) you do it from?

Thanks all...

[Bjjexpertise@be]

My favorite compression is the Hot Wing (or at least that's what I was taught it was called). It's where you go for a Kimura but they defend, so you shoot the arm that grabs your own wrist through and grabs your right tricep, then your right arm loops around and under the guy's arm and grabs your other tricep, From there you just walk around and turn & crank like a regular kimura.

I'm a big fan of using the triangle position to maintain control and set moves up (whether it is off of a sprawl, side control, etc). So usually when I get a reverse mounted triangle, I'll start going for the kimura, if I can't get that I'll hit the "hot wing."

A lot of people say compression locks are purely pain moves but I accidentally fractured a kid's forearm once with it , so everyone be smart and tap instead of risking an accident.

[Tant01]

These holds are banned in most competition. I was just wondering if anyone ever uses them and how.

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[DJColdfusion]

Originally Posted by Bjjexpertise@be

My favorite compression is the Hot Wing (or at least that's what I was taught it was called). It's where you go for a Kimura but they defend, so you shoot the arm that grabs your own wrist through and grabs your right tricep, then your right arm loops around and under the guy's arm and grabs your other tricep, From there you just walk around and turn & crank like a regular kimura.

I'm a big fan of using the triangle position to maintain control and set moves up (whether it is off of a sprawl, side control, etc). So usually when I get a reverse mounted triangle, I'll start going for the kimura, if I can't get that I'll hit the "hot wing."

A lot of people say compression locks are purely pain moves but I accidentally fractured a kid's forearm once with it , so everyone be smart and tap instead of risking an accident.

Never heard it called a "hot wing" but I taught that last night. Love it.

There are dozens upon dozens of versions of compression locks out there. The one I end up catching more often than almost nay other (outside of the "hot-wing" is a calf-slicer/calf-crusher out of half-guard. And, like Mike, I've seen some fairly serious injuries from themm although I think its stupid to ban them from competition . . . they should allow neck cranks too.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

Never heard it called a "hot wing" but I taught that last night. Love it.

There are dozens upon dozens of versions of compression locks out there. The one I end up catching more often than almost nay other (outside of the "hot-wing" is a calf-slicer/calf-crusher out of half-guard. And, like Mike, I've seen some fairly serious injuries from themm although I think its stupid to ban them from competition . . . they should allow neck cranks too.

I love the "hot wing," it's a very high percentage move if they defend the kimura and at the very least you can set up an armbar from it.
I'm totally with you on having them allowed in competition. Last time I checked though for no-gi in NAGA move like heelhooks, neck cranks, and compression submissions were allowed.

[Tant01]

These holds ARE permitted in some events. While they are not permitted in JUDO competition they can be found in Kodokan Judo, sombo and other styles (BJJ)

[Tant01]

While it may not be permitted as a "finishing hold" variations of these compression tactics are often used to break a grip or set up other techniques.

[kingoftheforest]

I prefer to sneak up on the person and apply an RNC but you can't do that in a tournament lol.

[migo]

My favourite is probably the calf slicer off a failed heel hook attempt. And then if the calf slicer fails, I usually get some form of back or side control. Pretty reliable sequence.