BJJ in Holland, Amsterdam

[The Shaman]

Does anyone know if there is a legitimate
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu school in Amsterdam (Holland)?
(Legitimate=recognised by any brazilian or american
BJJ/GJJ federation or association).

I know there are a handful of BJJ schools in
Holland but, as far as I know, non of them
is in Amsterdam.

I've stop practicing martial arts for three years
now so I am very eager to start training again.

They have wonderful Muay Thay school down here,
but I am truly in love with BJJ, since the early
days of UFC.

I envy you spoiled americans. So many top fighters
teaching there I can't even count.

Can someone help me out on this? Any help
is appreciated.

The Shaman

[duchman]

Ook een nederlander??

No, i don't know any bjj school in amsterdam, i don't live there.

But go to, www.shoto.com and search in there school database.

There are enough school that can teach you groundfighting but not in the form of bjj.
Go to a good free fight gym

[The Shaman]

Thanks duchman.

No I ain't duch, I mean dutch

I am a brazilian temporarily living
in Holland. So now you know.

When are they going to be serious
about BJJ down here? I want high
level BJJ here and now!

Peace

P.S.: Algum brasileiro trainando na Holanda?

[bobby_steeles]

so you're from brazil, but we're "spoiled americans"?

[The Shaman]

Yo bob,

I happen to live in HOLLAND for the time being.
Not in Rio, not in Sao Paulo not in LA. That's why I mentioned you guys being spoiled there in the US. 'Cause you are.

They don't have Renzo, Machado bros,
Rickson or Royler teaching down here. They ain't
got non o' that.

So yes I am from Brazil, but I don't have the oppor
tunity to train with my fellow countrymen.

I'm out.

[bobby_steeles]

i said "from" brazil. read it again. you may not have the opportunity to train there now, but you have before and you will again. if you speak portuguese(you may or may not) that's another huge plus for you. a lot of people here live in la and ny, but nost people do not. if you were born and raised in brazil, and it took you all the way until the ufc's started to start training, it sounds like a lot of wasted opportunity on your part. you wanna tell me again who is spoiled?

[The Shaman]

Hey bobby,

This argument is stupid, but man,
it seems YOU didn't read my post
well. Sure there are about a 1000
BJJ doyos in Brazil but only a few
have levels on par with Gracie Humaita,
Gracie Barra and so on. Most school
as far as I know are not recognised
by any federation and have a lot of
punks for students.

So, I still think you guys are spoiled.
You have LA and NY, we in Brazil have
Rio and Sao Paulo.

But if I could choose I would rather train
with either Renzo, Machado or Rickson
and those my fellow cyber friend,
teach in the land of the 'free'.

Most people don't live in Rio or Sao Paulo,
they live elsewhere. Most people cannot
pay the fees they ask for classes in Brazil.
In the US, that's a little different, pal.

I was born and raised in Brazil, but I was not
aware of BJJ, for it was the eighties and back in the
days BJJ wasn't worldfamous. Only when I left Brazil
in early nineties I became aware of BJJ courtesy of
Royce.

So bobby let me remind ya: You guys are spoiled.

As far as I am concerned this case is closed.

P.S.: Yes I do speak portuguese

[bobby_steeles]

Originally posted by The Shaman

As far as I am concerned this case is closed.

yeah, you don't sound spoiled at all.
you assumed everyone lives in ny and la, i didn't assume every brazillian lived in rio or sao paolo. you think there are no shitty schools here? you think there's a gracie on every corner in every city? you think nobody has any trouble paying over $150 a month for bjj alone? you must not have spent too much time here. i think you have been watching too many 90210 reruns in brazil.

[The Shaman]

OK.


Yes, I assumed everyone lived in NY and LA.
If it wasn't for you I'd still think all americans lived
in those two cities. Thanks for your enlightment.
Yeah, they probably have shitty schools there,
after all it IS America...

you think nobody has any trouble paying over $150 a month for bjj alone?

No I don't think nobody has any trouble paying over
$150 a month for bjj alone, but the thing is that Brazil
s economy is bankrupt. I said shiit was different, yes.
It's difficult to compare the level of poverty of Brazil,
with poverty in the USA. This is no competition or
anything, but the situation in Brazil is worse then
it is in America. You probably will think...never mind.

Oh yeah, man, I love that show, how did you know?
Can't wait to return to Brazil so I can finally watch
the show and learn more about american culture.

You are so right Bobby.

I am spoiled as hell yo, (living in Europe an'all...)
You don't know shiit of what I think, do or am,
so all you do is make suggestions, you think,
you think, you think...

Now I would like to stop with this argument,
for it leads to nothing.

[duchman]

Hi shaman, why don't you go to the gym of chris dolam they have HIGH class stand up and ground fighting there. A lot of rings fighter's train there

[The Shaman]

Once again,

Thanks duch.

I will check it out.
When I've been there,
I let you know.

Mazzel.

P.S. Yo duchman, can you provide me
the address and/or name of the
gym?

[bobby_steeles]

Originally posted by The Shaman

I am spoiled as hell yo, (living in Europe an'all...)
You don't know shiit of what I think, do or am,
so all you do is make suggestions, you think,
you think, you think...

are you singing to me here or what? anyway, i thought "this case was closed". lol i guess you guys get 90120 and matlock. lol!

[The Shaman]

Sorry bob, no matlock.

[duchman]

ttt for tommorow

[Karlinhos]

i'm spoiled...