takedown troubleshooting

[treelizard]

Okay, so I'm around 130 and I've been training with this bruiser who is 150 and she used to wrestle in college. Anyway, so we'll run drills where we're trying takedowns and I have my left arm on her right arm controlling the elbow. I hook up my right foot and try for a sweep, and she does the limp leg thing, so I go for the sweep from the other leg, and she does the limp leg thing, so I try to get the single leg takedown and then suddenly she is away from the wall, damn it, how did that happen? do single legs only work if the person is pushing against you or something? :-p

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Well generally for takedowns you want people coming into you so that it makes it harder for them to back out or sprawl.

[treelizard]

Originally Posted by Bjjexpertise@be

Well generally for takedowns you want people coming into you so that it makes it harder for them to back out or sprawl.

Except then I end up against the wall and getting taken down; this girl's a killer!!

Also whenever we roll she does that weird wrestling thing and i get spun in circles!! lol.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Get your back away from the wall! It's natural that she's spinning here away from there and you into it because nobody wants to be there-_-. So if you know that's coming, anticipate it and cut her off and shoot a single leg to the side she's escaping! From the way it sounds her wrestling is vastly superior to yours so you probably won't be able to help but get tooled by her .

[treelizard]

Yeah, she's like my hero. She is much cooler than the two annoying blond chicks at my gym that will only roll with each other and will take up mat space doing a zillion leg lifts.

I almost got a single leg on her once but I didn't finish it.

[Tant01]

I'm far from expert but the sweetest thing about a takedown is good timing. It can take YEARS of practice before the nuance becomes 2nd nature. My problem is THINKING about it and how to explain it?

When you learn to anticipate the commited attack to the point that you know to go NOW. It's almost like a dance where you allow the opponent to lead then you take the lead away. You force the leg away at the very moment it is needed to prevent toppling. EVEN a low stance can be inturupted with good timing. It's very much a science. (Or maybe it's art)

I would ask your training partner to break it down for you? Tell her you won't be satisfied until you can take her dow regularly...

And don't give up. WATCH her legs and feet, soon you will be reading when her weight shifts to her toes. TAKE IT!