Why dont we see more forearms across the throat?

[Shimora]

In at least half the MMA matches I witness, a forearm across the throat would end the fight quickly. I often see the opening there yet the sport fighters rarely recognise the opportunity.

In an old Pride event , possibly Pride Grand Prix Round 1 Gary Goodridge submits his opponent with a forearm across the throat. The minute the other guy felt pressure on his Adams Apple he started tapping.

In Tom Eriksons fight with Heath Herring his coach is constanly yeliing "put your forearm across his throat". Big goofy Erikson seemed oblivious to the commands and ignored them. He was then choked out.

Why do sport fighters not like to apply this technique? I have always found it very effective.

[Anabolic Ted]

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[Karlinhos]

i think it all depends on who you're fighting against. if your opponent doesn't have much experience with forearms across his throat, then he'll probably panic and tap. i think the great majority of pro fighters, and even amateurs, have a lot of experience with this pressure and know how to calmly defend against it.

i've seen it applied in many fights and nothingg has come of it. i think i've only seen it applied in one fight where it caused a tap (i think the guy was tired and ready to give up anyway).

plus, if you're trying it from someone's guard, there's a very basic reverse, choke submission (kinda like a triangle with the arrms as oppose to tthe legs) that can be slapped on when someone does that to you.

so, it seems that it's NOT a very successful move in today's game and it can get you caught in a pretty nasty choke, if your opponent knows what he's doing.

i'm surprised you don't know this shimmy!

[Ryu (non-working password]

ROTF
Even though I don't have anything against him, I'm pretty sure I've figured out who "Anabolic Ted" really is with just that one post haha

Ryu

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

LOL.....you crack me up ted!

[gungfuhero]

I've had some success with using my forearm across my sparring partner's throat, but I'm of the oppinion that to get the submission-rather than simply distract-you have to immobilize the head as well has lift it a little. Shoot Wrestling uses this forearm choke from a very tight position.

[Shimora]

Thanks for your responses guys.

Anabolic Ted aka duchman im glad to see you finally came out of the closet and announced your gayness with Pride. I now assume the rumors about you being a ladyboy prostitute on the streets of Amsterdam were true.

[tuffguy]

Becasue it only works on guys that don't know anything.

[Shimora]

So the guy Goodridge fought in round one of the Pride GP knew nothing about fighting?

So Tom Eriksons coach believed Heath Herring knew nothing?


Karl- "i'm surprised you don't know this shimmy!"

I was just testing you buddy

[LEGION]

a forearm across the throat from inside the guard can also set you up for quite possibly the nastiest submission i have ever seen, a combination neck/back crank. from a side mount it sets you up for a kind of reverse key lock.

[gungfuhero]

Good point Legion, but I'm thinking of using the forearm from Kesa Gatame. Some times I'll try to choke from inside the guard as a distraction. I am fully aware of the dangers of being armbarred, triangle choked, swept, etc. However, depending on your game, you can bait them into commiting to something that you're ready to counter (ABD). It's a risk, but it can yield great benefits. It tends to work better with a gi on (thrusting collar choke), but durring vale tudo it can work. I prefer to punch from in that situation.

[macdawg]

I saw one interesting match where a guy had the mount and the other guy was much stronger and had the top guys arm behind his back and was wrist locking him and about had it, then out of nowhere he panics and puts his forearm across the other guys throat to get out, it's these situations where I find the forearm most usefull.

[tuffguy]

Yes, the guy Goodridge fought didn't know anything. Has he fought since? If he was any good wouldn't he be fighting still? Branko Cicatic is another fighter to tap fromt he imfamous forearm accross the throat, and I think it's safe to say he knows nothing about fighting on the ground. What the hell does the Erikson-Herring fight have to do with this thread? He choked him from behind. Give me one example of a good fighter that has tapped to this "technique", and I use that term very lightly. I'm not talking about some scrub that fought one time, or never one a fight. I'm talking about legit fighters that have cpmeted and won fights against real competition.

[Hookah Smokin Caterpillar]

And even if the guy that tapped from the forearm had any skill, you still have to remember the guy doing the move is former arm wrestling champ that has a few good pounds on your neck

[Angel_of_Pain]

The only way I see someone tap to a forearm choke is if his oppoenet is way heavier then I'm and use all his weight and power, if you dont have a good neck or you have no skill cause its easy to get out of it