The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 12:49 PM

Taekyon (Korea)

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 12:50 PM

Wrestling (Mongolia)

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 12:52 PM

Sambo (Russia)

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 12:54 PM

Uzumlu (Turkey)

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 12:59 PM

Shuai Jiao (China)

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 01:02 PM

Wrestling (India)

YouTube - Wrestling Guru - India

Tom Yum · 11-22-2008, 01:05 PM

Catch-as-Catch Can (US)

Ghost · 11-22-2008, 01:27 PM

omg what a load of gay!
are these your friends tom?

Tant01 · 11-22-2008, 04:34 PM

..........cool! Thanks Tom...

More Rep soon!

Tom Yum · 11-23-2008, 05:45 PM

The Mongolian wrestlers fought on the ground. No mats! Same with the Turks. Wrestling in a dirt pit, as the Indians demonstrated, could be good for simulating a beach type environment. Wrestling in oil? Not so sure about that one though.

Korean wrestlers used more leg takedowns, which allbeit impressive, seem hella risky.

Shuai jiao looks like judo's precursor; CCW looks like freestyle wrestling's precursor.

jubaji · 11-24-2008, 12:28 AM

Wrestling is universal!

Bjjexpertise@be · 11-24-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jubaji

Wrestling is universal!

100% agree. You see wrestling amongst babies and animals as well. There are a couple clips floating around youtube of bears,tigers, monkeys, etc. wrestling.

Tom Yum · 11-24-2008, 07:44 PM

Out of all grappling styles shown, I'm most impressed by the Mongolians.

Sure, its no gi but they use there natural surrounding and no mats. They stop once the throw is scored, which obviously limits ground work and keeps it sport, but I'd imagine in their old society, going to the ground would result in spitting, bitting, picking up a rock next to you, smashing it overhead or pulling out a hidden weapon to help you finish off your enemy. Not to say that ground work is useless, but I'd wager that wrestling like this was used to keep soldiers sharp and prepaired if they were in close.

11-25-2008, 11:40 AM

Chinese Kung Fu has grappling as well, but some of it is very vicious and for combat survival. There are also many clawing techniques that can be used effectively on the ground. I was hoping in the future to put together a Kung Fu grappling and ground fighting book. It seems to me that there is a diiference between sport fighting and survival combat fighting of Kung Fu. Does anyone agree?

Tom Yum · 11-25-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Chinese Kung Fu has grappling as well, but some of it is very vicious and for combat survival. There are also many clawing techniques that can be used effectively on the ground. I was hoping in the future to put together a Kung Fu grappling and ground fighting book. It seems to me that there is a diiference between sport fighting and survival combat fighting of Kung Fu. Does anyone agree?

I agree.

Survival type of fighting is just that.

Still, you can't take away what sport fighting has to offer, not in terms of tactics per se, but in terms of operating in a real-time, spontaneous environment with as much power as you can handle (without dying or being permanently injured).

The gongfu grappling book sounds like a great idea.

11-22-2008, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-22-2008, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,934 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	..........cool! Thanks Tom... More Rep soon! __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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11-23-2008, 05:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,564 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	The Mongolian wrestlers fought on the ground. No mats! Same with the Turks. Wrestling in a dirt pit, as the Indians demonstrated, could be good for simulating a beach type environment. Wrestling in oil? Not so sure about that one though. Korean wrestlers used more leg takedowns, which allbeit impressive, seem hella risky. Shuai jiao looks like judo's precursor; CCW looks like freestyle wrestling's precursor.

11-24-2008, 07:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,564 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Out of all grappling styles shown, I'm most impressed by the Mongolians. Sure, its no gi but they use there natural surrounding and no mats. They stop once the throw is scored, which obviously limits ground work and keeps it sport, but I'd imagine in their old society, going to the ground would result in spitting, bitting, picking up a rock next to you, smashing it overhead or pulling out a hidden weapon to help you finish off your enemy. Not to say that ground work is useless, but I'd wager that wrestling like this was used to keep soldiers sharp and prepaired if they were in close.

11-25-2008, 11:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
TigerClaw Guest Posts: n/a	Chinese Kung Fu has grappling as well, but some of it is very vicious and for combat survival. There are also many clawing techniques that can be used effectively on the ground. I was hoping in the future to put together a Kung Fu grappling and ground fighting book. It seems to me that there is a diiference between sport fighting and survival combat fighting of Kung Fu. Does anyone agree?

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