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Old 04-29-2001, 02:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been spending time working on fighting when an opponent's back is up against a wall, door, etc. I really think that Paul Vunak's kneeing and headbutt strategy works much better here than if the man is free to punch back, bob and weave, etc.
I know that Mario Sperry also talk about this in his vale tudo tapes, and I want to check them out. Anyone seen the videos in question? Even against a bigger guy it seems to work if you can clinch and drive him to a wall, pin him there, and headbutt him in the face and drive your knee into his groin and thigh. The only thing is the danger of someone pulling a knife in a clinch. But then again there are guys you simply do not want to punch with.

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Old 04-29-2001, 03:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah I agree...when you have your opponent pushed against a wall...Vunaks approach is great....I like to use repeated elbows to the face in this position...

I also read in an old article about BJJ for the street that Sperry likes to have his opponent against the wall and use knees...he also said takedowns are alot safer to pull off when your opponent is against a wall...
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I have the sperry tapes; his approach is the classical from BJJ: you dodge the incoming blow and go to a clinch, where you bury your head in the opp. chest. Then you push him on a wall or an obstacle (a car for ex.) and from there you try to take him down.

I think that this a very safe tactic, maybe one of the few that i would conuseil to a weaker guy or a woman. The only problem is that for acquire the clinch you must DRILL a fair amount of time under heavy blows. If you shoot half-axxed you will get nailed big time.
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Old 04-29-2001, 05:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hey Ryu and Everyone,

I've heard a lot of good things about the Mario Sperry video series. Are they true? I was thinking about getting them. I've heard he teaches heavily on "strike then submission combinations", is this accurate? I'm really interested in this because all my combinations are striking combinations, and I think of my submissions as something separate.

Also there are several series that he (Sperry) has made:
Vale Tudo Series 1
Vale Tudo Series 2
Mastering Submission Grappling Series (or something like that)
And I think one or two more Series ( but I could be wrong)

So which series, exactly, are we talking about.

And better yet which videos exactly are we talking about (with the wall fighting and striking/submission combinations) because I would prefer not to buy the whole series as I feel I have a good grasp on some of the video topics and not as good a grasp on some other video topics.

However it may be a mute point as you may have to buy the whole series to get any kind of deal.

So I would love to have this info (on which, if not all series to buy, or which exact videos to buy).

Also does anyone know where exactly to buy these series for the cheapest deal.

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The strategy in combat, taught in the sperry video, really is "get a dominant position then strike to get a submission", bear in mind that the topic of striking is barely sctratched.

If you have limited funds I suggest you to get the whole first series and the two tapes from the second that covers leglocks, you will not get disappointed.
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whenever i get my opponent against a wall, i don't throw any strikes at all. i grab him by the collar and start shaking him hard against the wall. this loosens the bricks and one by one they start falling on my opponent's head, thus rendering him unconcious.
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The strategy in combat, taught in the sperry video, really is "get a dominant position then strike to get a submission", bear in mind that the topic of striking is barely sctratched.

If you have limited funds I suggest you to get the whole first series and the two tapes from the second that covers leglocks, you will not get disappointed.
Thanx for the advice. So your saying:

Buy all of Mario's Vale Tudo Series 1

Buy the tapes that cover leg locks in Mario's Vale Tudo Series 2

I'm just making sure because he does have other series besides his Vale Tudo Series.

Thanx very much for the info Underdog, I appreciate it.

Any other info others can give me regarding Mario Sperry's tapes would be highly appreciated because I probably will buy some of his tapes in the next month or so, having heard so many good things about them.
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You can read a very well made review by bill lewis connecting to www.bjj.org and searching for tape reviews.
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I have Value Tudo series #1 and they are great. While they're not loaded with secret techniques you've never seen before, the beauty of them is that they show what won't work versus an opponent with at least some grappling knowledge.

That is, they're predicated on the idea that you're facing somebody with equal (or close to it) skill--I don't think you can overestimate anybody too much, especially in a street fight.

As somebody mentioned above, the series more or less shows how to get position in order to strike better (or submit), in some ways you may not have seen before (there's a great guard pass).

As for standing, Ryu, his idea is that when you pin an opponent against a wall or car or whatever, this is preferable to going to the ground if you don't have to. You can deliver knees, elbows, whatever--or even score a Frank Shamrock-style KO takedown--while protecting yourself.

After watching the set for the first time, I was impressed by a) the beauty of the simplicity (simplicity = good in my book) of the moves and the b) common sense approach to grappling. Marios' pretty funny when he dismisses some of the ole' BJJ warhorse moves which may work in class but will get you pounded on the outside.

I can tell you that if you order the set, they give you a 10 or 20 minute sampler video which shows more or less what the series looks like (a few lessons). If you see it and decide this isn't at all what you wanted, you can return the actual set (unopened) for a refund. I thought that was pretty fair.

Go read the review at www.bjj.org--that's what sold me on them and I was not disappointed.
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