Tito vs Elvis, is elvis a fluke?????

Whtown · 05-03-2001, 07:00 PM

The next title defence for tito will be aginst Elvis sinosic. I think this will be a Very one sided match. I have yet to see any type of standup by elvis. I say tito Ortiz by knockout in less than 5 min.

hounddog · 05-04-2001, 12:47 PM

i don't think he is a fluke but his match with Horn only displayed what we already know -- that he is a jiu jitsu guy. Had he backed Horn up with strikes and KO'd him standing we'd probably be anticipating this fight a bit more.

That being said, have we seen Tito fight a jiu jitsu fighter who goes for subs from their back before? I'm not sure and thats why I ask. If the fight goes a long time and Elvis is able to keep Tito in the guard he may catch him if Tito gets overzealous.
-hounddog

bobby_steeles · 05-04-2001, 01:38 PM

how did this guy get first in line for a shot at tito? because he beat horn?

hounddog · 05-04-2001, 03:04 PM

it must be his underground reputation and the fact that he went the distance against Frank Shamrock.

TKOU · 05-04-2001, 03:13 PM

Horn was supposed to be next in line for a title shot. He lost to Elvis and evidently the UFC folks feel that with that win came a title shot. I think Elvis will be in for a surprise when he fights Tito just from a size and strength standpoint, but I am excited to see these two guys in the ring together. I like Elvis' attitude and anticipate a good fight.

bobby_steeles · 05-04-2001, 03:24 PM

ah! good points- it make more sense now.

Hawk · 05-04-2001, 05:14 PM

One things for sure, Tito is no fluke. This fight has my interest.
Hawk

Rock Ape · 05-05-2001, 07:34 AM

Elvis actually is quite strong on his feet though he hasn't really shown it at the top level yet. He has trained in more traditional standup arts for many years including Tae Kwon Do and Kickboxing with the latter a big part of his day to day training.

I think he really needs to have more confidence in himself rather than just focussing on getting it to the ground where he is more in his element.

Tito won't knock Elvis out. This will go the distance and Tito will get the call if Elvis dosen't get busy. Ideally, Elvis will catch him and make him tap.

Rock Ape

Mad Dog · 05-07-2001, 05:52 PM

Rockape, I was going to e-mail you to ask for some background on Elvis, but you beat me to it! Thanks! What level of JJ training doe's he have? Take Care...

DIRE WOLF · 05-07-2001, 06:01 PM

I think Elvis is a purple belt.

fil · 05-07-2001, 07:33 PM

Elvis last three fights Beneteau, Frank and Horn were all given to him on short notice. He faught a heavyweight Beneteau and faught him better then a BJJ blackbelt Barreto, the match ended in a Draw. He then faught Frank Shamrock on short notice and gave him a very good fight resulting in him losing a close decision. Then after "Cafe" Dantas pulled out of the UFC match with Horn, Elvis again on short notice faught Horn this time winning by submision.

Now consider that for this match he has lots of time to prepare for his oponent and unlike in the past he is training full time now so it would seem that he could perform better then most expect.

sccr06 · 05-07-2001, 10:57 PM

I think this will be a good fight. But what is up with Tito's picture? Is it just me or does he look like his face is kinda puffy? I would almost say he looks 'roided except for his recent comment about 'roids.

Rock Ape · 05-08-2001, 04:55 PM

Good to hear from you.

Elvis is purple belt.

Rock Ape.

macdawg · 05-11-2001, 08:09 PM

Elvis is as good of a candidate as anybody. His submissions are great and he is going to gun for Tito. I hope Elvis wins by sub but if I were to bet I'd bet on a Tito decision.

05-03-2001, 07:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Whtown Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 32 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tito vs Elvis, is elvis a fluke????? The next title defence for tito will be aginst Elvis sinosic. I think this will be a Very one sided match. I have yet to see any type of standup by elvis. I say tito Ortiz by knockout in less than 5 min.

05-04-2001, 03:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
TKOU Novice Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 46 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Horn was supposed to be next in line for a title shot. He lost to Elvis and evidently the UFC folks feel that with that win came a title shot. I think Elvis will be in for a surprise when he fights Tito just from a size and strength standpoint, but I am excited to see these two guys in the ring together. I like Elvis' attitude and anticipate a good fight. __________________ "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour-his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear- is that moment when he has to work his heart out in a good cause & he's exhausted on the field of battle-VICTORIOUS." Vince Lombardi

05-04-2001, 05:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hawk Master Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,081 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	One things for sure, Tito is no fluke. This fight has my interest. Hawk __________________ You cannot run away from a weakness; Sometimes you must fight it out or perish; And if that be so; Why not now and where you stand.

05-07-2001, 05:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mad Dog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Antioch, Ca Posts: 162 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rockape, I was going to e-mail you to ask for some background on Elvis, but you beat me to it! Thanks! What level of JJ training doe's he have? Take Care... __________________ He who contemplates the possibility of defeat is but a step away from achieving it....

05-07-2001, 10:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
sccr06 Novice Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: LA, CA Posts: 311 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think this will be a good fight. But what is up with Tito's picture? Is it just me or does he look like his face is kinda puffy? I would almost say he looks 'roided except for his recent comment about 'roids. __________________ The noble soul has reverence for itself -Neitzsche

05-04-2001, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
hounddog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 373 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i don't think he is a fluke but his match with Horn only displayed what we already know -- that he is a jiu jitsu guy. Had he backed Horn up with strikes and KO'd him standing we'd probably be anticipating this fight a bit more. That being said, have we seen Tito fight a jiu jitsu fighter who goes for subs from their back before? I'm not sure and thats why I ask. If the fight goes a long time and Elvis is able to keep Tito in the guard he may catch him if Tito gets overzealous. -hounddog

05-04-2001, 01:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
bobby_steeles Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in front of my computer Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	how did this guy get first in line for a shot at tito? because he beat horn?

05-04-2001, 03:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
hounddog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 373 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	it must be his underground reputation and the fact that he went the distance against Frank Shamrock.

05-04-2001, 03:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
bobby_steeles Advanced Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in front of my computer Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ah! good points- it make more sense now.

05-05-2001, 07:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rock Ape Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 64 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Elvis actually is quite strong on his feet though he hasn't really shown it at the top level yet. He has trained in more traditional standup arts for many years including Tae Kwon Do and Kickboxing with the latter a big part of his day to day training. I think he really needs to have more confidence in himself rather than just focussing on getting it to the ground where he is more in his element. Tito won't knock Elvis out. This will go the distance and Tito will get the call if Elvis dosen't get busy. Ideally, Elvis will catch him and make him tap. Rock Ape

05-07-2001, 06:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
DIRE WOLF Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore,Maryland Posts: 122 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think Elvis is a purple belt.

05-07-2001, 07:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
fil Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 1,357 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Elvis last three fights Beneteau, Frank and Horn were all given to him on short notice. He faught a heavyweight Beneteau and faught him better then a BJJ blackbelt Barreto, the match ended in a Draw. He then faught Frank Shamrock on short notice and gave him a very good fight resulting in him losing a close decision. Then after "Cafe" Dantas pulled out of the UFC match with Horn, Elvis again on short notice faught Horn this time winning by submision. Now consider that for this match he has lots of time to prepare for his oponent and unlike in the past he is training full time now so it would seem that he could perform better then most expect.

05-08-2001, 04:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rock Ape Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 64 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Mad Dog... Good to hear from you. Elvis is purple belt. Rock Ape.

05-11-2001, 08:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
macdawg Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 56 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Elvis is as good of a candidate as anybody. His submissions are great and he is going to gun for Tito. I hope Elvis wins by sub but if I were to bet I'd bet on a Tito decision.

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