What is Submission Wrestling?

DIRE WOLF · 05-18-2001, 06:58 PM

I hear alout about Submission Wrestling. Does anyone know what the differences between it and BJJ? Thanks

Mr. Miyagi · 05-18-2001, 07:14 PM

Submission wrestling is a broad term not relating to a specific art. There are sub wrestling tournaments all over the country, Abu Dhabi is a sub wrestling tournament also. BJJ, judo, catch wrestling(haha), shooto, and even freestyle wrestling can be used to prepare for sub wrestling competition.

festiva · 05-18-2001, 09:41 PM

bjj has its roots in judo some of the techniques overlap but in wrestling if your on your back the bout is over in bjj the bout just started bjj was developped by a small man who felt that even if he were overpowered he could still eventually dominate the goal of wrestling is to pin the goal of bjj is to win. i guess submission wrestling is great for on top but lousy on the bottom..wrestling because of its rules may have limitations that bjj does not now u can add submissions to wrestling but wrestling was not meant to address positionally some one trying to arm bar them from the guard..because the defense vs the armbar is found in the art that developped it now im figuring this out from the point of view of college wrestling as we see it today..i mean you dont see the guard in wrestling because in college wrestling being on your back is the end of the match so its never developped ..if that makes any sense..now if you are talking about the hybrid submission wrestling used in nhb then iwould say that its 25 percent takedowns and a few other ground techniques ie hammer lock, half nelson taken from wrestling and the rest is bjj...

Oldskulbus · 05-18-2001, 11:19 PM

Festiva's post was kinda long winded. Let me simplify:

Submission Wrestling = Wrestling where you try to make the other person "tap out" or submit because of a joint lock or painful position you have put him in.

BJJ= Wrestling where you try to make the other person "tap out" or submit because of a joint lock or painful position you have put him in.

The difference? A good BJJ school will try to teach technique properly so you conserve energy and use less muscle then wrestling to do the same thing. A bad BJJ school looks just like submission wrestling though.

Mr. Miyagi · 05-19-2001, 12:00 AM

That's funny how freestyle wrestlers add some subs and guard passing to their arsenal and easily incorporate these concepts. They can take advantage of the rules and win matches on a takedown or guard pass.

iswa · 05-03-2006, 01:24 PM

a hybrid of wrestling and jujitsu

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DIRE WOLF Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore,Maryland Posts: 122 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is Submission Wrestling? I hear alout about Submission Wrestling. Does anyone know what the differences between it and BJJ? Thanks

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Oldskulbus Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NP California Posts: 133 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Festiva's post was kinda long winded. Let me simplify: Submission Wrestling = Wrestling where you try to make the other person "tap out" or submit because of a joint lock or painful position you have put him in. BJJ= Wrestling where you try to make the other person "tap out" or submit because of a joint lock or painful position you have put him in. The difference? A good BJJ school will try to teach technique properly so you conserve energy and use less muscle then wrestling to do the same thing. A bad BJJ school looks just like submission wrestling though. Last edited by Oldskulbus; 05-18-2001 at 11:23 PM.

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iswa Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	a hybrid of wrestling and jujitsu Check it out in action! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buIVImVlI9g

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05-18-2001, 07:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Submission wrestling is a broad term not relating to a specific art. There are sub wrestling tournaments all over the country, Abu Dhabi is a sub wrestling tournament also. BJJ, judo, catch wrestling(haha), shooto, and even freestyle wrestling can be used to prepare for sub wrestling competition.

05-18-2001, 09:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
festiva Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 42 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	bjj has its roots in judo some of the techniques overlap but in wrestling if your on your back the bout is over in bjj the bout just started bjj was developped by a small man who felt that even if he were overpowered he could still eventually dominate the goal of wrestling is to pin the goal of bjj is to win. i guess submission wrestling is great for on top but lousy on the bottom..wrestling because of its rules may have limitations that bjj does not now u can add submissions to wrestling but wrestling was not meant to address positionally some one trying to arm bar them from the guard..because the defense vs the armbar is found in the art that developped it now im figuring this out from the point of view of college wrestling as we see it today..i mean you dont see the guard in wrestling because in college wrestling being on your back is the end of the match so its never developped ..if that makes any sense..now if you are talking about the hybrid submission wrestling used in nhb then iwould say that its 25 percent takedowns and a few other ground techniques ie hammer lock, half nelson taken from wrestling and the rest is bjj...

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Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's funny how freestyle wrestlers add some subs and guard passing to their arsenal and easily incorporate these concepts. They can take advantage of the rules and win matches on a takedown or guard pass.

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