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Szczepankiewicz · 01-02-2002, 01:02 PM

A comment on Wrist Locks.

We train with a variety of wrist locks stemming from a basic set of 5. These are kinda neat, they are really impressive in a static training situation or when using them on an untrained unsuspecting individual who is foolish enough to provide the opening for you.

They are useful for people whom you don't want to hurt and who are not trying to kill you.
See.... my grandma grabs my arm when I reach for another pancake and wiz bang ol' granny is twisted up and tapping out. Slick, no?

However, it is a totally different situation when you are facing off with a determined adversary looking to beat your face in.

Wrist locks do not work well against:
1) A trained opponent
2) A sweaty opponent
3) Someone looking to box/strike

They are useful when:
1) the opponent is untrained
2) the opponent is half-heartedly engaged
3) In a semi-static situation before things heat up
4) You are not looking to do serious injury and/or against friends or family members who push their luck.

These are just some examples. More often than not, if you are looking to subdue a true opponent using locks, it is better to go for elbow/knee/neck locks. Easier to maintain and control....

What do you think?

SZ

mushinmaster · 01-02-2002, 10:36 PM

Putting a wrist lock on Granny?

I don't know about your family, but my Irish granny would reverse it and have me eating the floor in a flash. Next would be a flying elbow strike from the fith rope!

She loves WWF

JaredExtreme · 01-02-2002, 10:44 PM

Mushin, there's only 3 ropes in pro wrestling !! Jared Extreme = Jerichoholic

Mr. Miyagi · 01-02-2002, 11:13 PM

I think you should go to a few schools and challenge the instructors to a fight and base your decision on the results of the matches.

mushinmaster · 01-02-2002, 11:53 PM

Jared: my grandma's the expert!
I don't know stone hot stevie wonder from the grave man!

mushinmaster · 01-02-2002, 11:54 PM

Uhh, the best fighters aren't always the best teachers, I think it takes a special person to be a good teacher - don't always have to be a good fighter.

Szczepankiewicz · 01-03-2002, 10:30 AM

Y2J is a candyass !

Miyagi, that would be a good way to test the theories, now wouldn't it? I wonder how often that is done anymore. That sounds like a good project... travel from one dojo to the next challenging all who would fight me.

Our very own "Potato Kumi Uchi."

"If you defeat me, I will come wash your car every day for a month!" Not quite the Gracie Challenge, but it might prove a good learning experience.

SZ

I better get a job with better health benefits.

Arrgh · 01-03-2002, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
Y2J is a candyass !

Jericho's okay. But I like HHH. God help us all if he starts to train.

01-02-2002, 10:36 PM	#32 (permalink)
mushinmaster Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SGF, NY Posts: 402 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Putting a wrist lock on Granny? I don't know about your family, but my Irish granny would reverse it and have me eating the floor in a flash. Next would be a flying elbow strike from the fith rope! She loves WWF __________________ Alex Bedard http://www.geocities.com/mushinmaster

01-02-2002, 10:44 PM	#33 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mushin, there's only 3 ropes in pro wrestling !! Jared Extreme = Jerichoholic __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

01-02-2002, 11:53 PM	#35 (permalink)
mushinmaster Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SGF, NY Posts: 402 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jared: my grandma's the expert! I don't know stone hot stevie wonder from the grave man! __________________ Alex Bedard http://www.geocities.com/mushinmaster

01-02-2002, 11:54 PM	#36 (permalink)
mushinmaster Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SGF, NY Posts: 402 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Uhh, the best fighters aren't always the best teachers, I think it takes a special person to be a good teacher - don't always have to be a good fighter. __________________ Alex Bedard http://www.geocities.com/mushinmaster

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01-02-2002, 01:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	A comment on Wrist Locks. We train with a variety of wrist locks stemming from a basic set of 5. These are kinda neat, they are really impressive in a static training situation or when using them on an untrained unsuspecting individual who is foolish enough to provide the opening for you. They are useful for people whom you don't want to hurt and who are not trying to kill you. See.... my grandma grabs my arm when I reach for another pancake and wiz bang ol' granny is twisted up and tapping out. Slick, no? However, it is a totally different situation when you are facing off with a determined adversary looking to beat your face in. Wrist locks do not work well against: 1) A trained opponent 2) A sweaty opponent 3) Someone looking to box/strike They are useful when: 1) the opponent is untrained 2) the opponent is half-heartedly engaged 3) In a semi-static situation before things heat up 4) You are not looking to do serious injury and/or against friends or family members who push their luck. These are just some examples. More often than not, if you are looking to subdue a true opponent using locks, it is better to go for elbow/knee/neck locks. Easier to maintain and control.... What do you think? SZ

01-02-2002, 11:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think you should go to a few schools and challenge the instructors to a fight and base your decision on the results of the matches.

01-03-2002, 10:30 AM	#37 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Y2J is a candyass ! Miyagi, that would be a good way to test the theories, now wouldn't it? I wonder how often that is done anymore. That sounds like a good project... travel from one dojo to the next challenging all who would fight me. Our very own "Potato Kumi Uchi." "If you defeat me, I will come wash your car every day for a month!" Not quite the Gracie Challenge, but it might prove a good learning experience. SZ I better get a job with better health benefits.

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