A stupid question about rank.

Lacrymosa · 08-06-2001, 03:21 PM

The following may make me seem rather thick, but throughout all of the years that I've been a fan and student of BJJ, I've never bothered to ask the question:

What are the stripes on your belt for?........and how do you earn them? I've heard them referred to as "combat stripes".....but I've never seen such a promotion in person. I've been dabbling in BJJ in different school for the last five years, but I've always hesitated asking about them.

SO......FINALLY.....I'm going to come right out with it....and ask.

Karlinhos · 08-06-2001, 03:48 PM

pftzzzzzz... !!!!!!!!

what a STUPID question!

Lacrymosa · 08-06-2001, 03:53 PM

Why am I not surprised?

Karlinhos · 08-06-2001, 03:56 PM

i know royce just tells guys to "poot a strip on yor belt".

it's just to indicate ability within a belt color. it makes sense, think about it, are fresh blue belts not quite as good as 4-stripers???

Lacrymosa · 08-06-2001, 04:10 PM

That easy, huh?

Next question: Who's authorized to issue rank in BJJ? Is it exclusively a black belt or are other belts (i.e. Purps or Browns) that are given the nod for promotion?

Martial Artist · 08-06-2001, 05:33 PM

As far as I know, only a Black Belt can promote.

Karlinhos · 08-06-2001, 05:38 PM

dito what MA said.

unless you're training far from the PURE WATERS...

SweepEm · 08-06-2001, 06:56 PM

Lactase:

some schools believe in awarding stripes and others don't, just like in belt promotions.

There are some instructors that believe in belt tests and others that just give out the higher belt when they feel you are there.

I know of no test for stripes, but instead, it's how you are progressing and if you compete, how you do in the competition, even if you may lose in a tournament, you may still get a stripe.

That wasn't a dumb question at all,
what was dumb was WAITING 5 years to ask.

KyleS · 08-07-2001, 09:00 AM

Some instructors use stripes, some do not. They are an indication of seniority within a rank, but do not change the rank. They are a good guide of how close you are to the next rank, but certainly no guarantee how long you'll be a '4-striper'.

I am not a black-belt, but I have permission from my instructor, a 2nd-degree black-belt, to promote folks to blue-belt.

- Kyle

Lacrymosa · 08-07-2001, 02:18 PM

I guess I haven't been around an instructor long enough to earn a stripe

JaredExtreme · 08-07-2001, 02:26 PM

I've been training 7 months and no stripes. hehe oh well. It's better not to have stripes on your white belt because then people underestimate you. Then out of nowhere, dim mata !!

SweepEm · 08-07-2001, 07:49 PM

7 months and no stripes?

hey, me too.......

Lacrymosa · 08-07-2001, 08:07 PM

Try FIVE YEARS and no stripe.....LOL

Mr. Miyagi · 08-07-2001, 11:02 PM

I've gotten all my stripes after I happened to do well in a particular training session. I think stripes seem to be encouragement and belts seem to be for technical command.

08-06-2001, 03:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555	A stupid question about rank. The following may make me seem rather thick, but throughout all of the years that I've been a fan and student of BJJ, I've never bothered to ask the question: What are the stripes on your belt for?........and how do you earn them? I've heard them referred to as "combat stripes".....but I've never seen such a promotion in person. I've been dabbling in BJJ in different school for the last five years, but I've always hesitated asking about them. SO......FINALLY.....I'm going to come right out with it....and ask. __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

08-06-2001, 03:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650	pftzzzzzz... !!!!!!!! what a STUPID question! __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

08-06-2001, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555	Why am I not surprised? __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

08-06-2001, 03:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650	i know royce just tells guys to "poot a strip on yor belt". it's just to indicate ability within a belt color. it makes sense, think about it, are fresh blue belts not quite as good as 4-stripers??? __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

08-06-2001, 04:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555	That easy, huh? Next question: Who's authorized to issue rank in BJJ? Is it exclusively a black belt or are other belts (i.e. Purps or Browns) that are given the nod for promotion? __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

08-06-2001, 05:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536	As far as I know, only a Black Belt can promote. __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

08-06-2001, 05:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650	dito what MA said. unless you're training far from the PURE WATERS... __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

08-06-2001, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,846	Lactase: some schools believe in awarding stripes and others don't, just like in belt promotions. There are some instructors that believe in belt tests and others that just give out the higher belt when they feel you are there. I know of no test for stripes, but instead, it's how you are progressing and if you compete, how you do in the competition, even if you may lose in a tournament, you may still get a stripe. That wasn't a dumb question at all, what was dumb was WAITING 5 years to ask.

08-07-2001, 09:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
KyleS Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 31	Some instructors use stripes, some do not. They are an indication of seniority within a rank, but do not change the rank. They are a good guide of how close you are to the next rank, but certainly no guarantee how long you'll be a '4-striper'. I am not a black-belt, but I have permission from my instructor, a 2nd-degree black-belt, to promote folks to blue-belt. - Kyle

08-07-2001, 02:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555	I guess I haven't been around an instructor long enough to earn a stripe __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

08-07-2001, 02:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	I've been training 7 months and no stripes. hehe oh well. It's better not to have stripes on your white belt because then people underestimate you. Then out of nowhere, dim mata !! __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

08-07-2001, 07:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,846	7 months and no stripes? hey, me too.......

08-07-2001, 08:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555	Try FIVE YEARS and no stripe.....LOL __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

08-07-2001, 11:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719	I've gotten all my stripes after I happened to do well in a particular training session. I think stripes seem to be encouragement and belts seem to be for technical command.

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