The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Angel_of_Pain · 10-03-2001, 09:14 PM

Dont you see UFC dont want Tito to lose! They need Tito he is the poter bad boy he is the cool guy who sale tickets, it's not Couture (by the way he's a great fighter and I like the man) that will sale ticket that will be the poster guy that will be the UFC.
What they want is to build guy try to make them look good and be bashed by Tito! Dont belive me? Even Tanner 3 match and boom destroy, Elvis Sinosic he was only at is fourth match in NHB A draw in ucc, a loss to frank Shamrock and a win over Horn comeon!

I think the ufc could be good but damn hey need to fix there problem quickly because it will turn around and become shit it will become something political all about the money and the poster boy

Lacrymosa · 10-03-2001, 09:40 PM

hmmmmm.......

enteresting......

keithws · 10-04-2001, 12:53 PM

I agree that the UFC definitely enjoys Tito as a poster boy but they're definitely not protecting him!

Afterall, they put him against Vitor for the championship. It's not their fault the guy got injured. Secondly, Vlad's (the janitor) no joke! He at the very least is a top 10 lightheavy if not 5.

I think the major problem is, there's not too many lightheavies than can compete with Tito.

Bustemante, Lidell, Silva, Vlad, Randleman, and Vitor or probably the only guys out there that can give him a run for his money.

What can you say, Tito's an animal that's more of a heavyweight by fight time..

later dude

TracyKarate · 10-04-2001, 04:14 PM

Sadly, this is the nature of the beast. Now that wagering is taking place on UFC title fights, ,there will be a definite "influence" on match ups and decisions. Las Vegas is aptly named "SIN City"., and there is a reason for that. The UFC is on the road to becoming as watered down as boxing.

oviedoh45 · 10-04-2001, 07:37 PM

There's no telling what can happen in todays sports. If Tito gets knocked out or just beat it would be just another underdog that was underestimated. You can't assume anymore that the top contender is gonna win. First Tank Abott gets his knocked out by a UFC debut fighter (Pedro Rizzo) Lennox, Trinidad, etc...

Frogman · 10-04-2001, 08:00 PM

There are others who can compete with Tito at light heavyweight and give him a run for his money. These fighters may be doing other things such as Pride. Frank Shamrock who walks around at 190 or below is 20lbs lighter than Tito but kicked his butt a couple of years ago. Although it is obvious Tito has improved since then, so has Shamrock. How about Sakuraba? A Tito vs. Sak fight would generate as much excitement as Tito vs. Vitor. Bas Rutten is another tough mother who can challenge Tito.

edro · 10-04-2001, 08:12 PM

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Hookah Smokin Caterpillar · 10-05-2001, 12:27 PM

I think the LHW division is just as stacked as any division out there. The only division that is truely stacked beyond belief is the LW division, the rest are all about the same. So in my opinion there are quite a few guys I think can take out Tito. Not that Tito is easy to take out, but everyone is so even its hard to see an undefeated fighter in today's MMA.

Tony10 · 10-05-2001, 03:45 PM

Just exactly how tall/heavy is Tito?

edro · 10-05-2001, 04:04 PM

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bobby_steeles · 10-05-2001, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Angel_of_Pain
Dont you see UFC dont want Tito to lose! They need Tito he is the poter bad boy he is the cool guy who sale tickets, it's not Couture (by the way he's a great fighter and I like the man) that will sale ticket that will be the poster guy that will be the UFC.

are you saying that zuffa is responsible for the cut to vitor's arm that kept him from fighting?! hmmm, i think you're on to something...

all i know is that those three judges screwed bustamante like a cheap whore. if i was there i would have threw something at 'em!

was it just me or did watcking "chunk" liddel make you think you were watching the next tank abbot in the making?

and what's with the crowd chanting "USA!" during the fight? how stupid is that? i thought the redneck portion of the ufc's audience had dwindled, but i guess i was wrong.
someone needs to give them a quick little history lesson: no brazillian jiu-jitsu, no ufc...even if them's are farr-ners.

Frogman · 10-05-2001, 09:32 PM

bobby steeles: my thougths exactly. without foreign influence, the ufc would be just boxing and wrestling.

Angel_of_Pain · 10-05-2001, 10:10 PM

I'm not saying that Zuffa master plan was to make sure Vitor is injured during training so they can put Vlad in there and get beat, cause everyone knew Vlad had the skill to hang in there but not to win.
And Chuck Liddel decision was horrible, but listen to this Liddel and Tito always said they would never face each other= if bustamente win he become #1 contender (as he should be) but now that liddel got the "win" well Tito will face some other dude and Bustamente will have to wait. Is it just me or is everything going in place so we have to wait and wait...

keithws · 10-07-2001, 08:24 PM

I don't know. The whole conspiracy thing sounds pretty weak.

They scheduled Tito against Vitor! What more can they do. Vladdy's a legit top 10 middle weight and no scrub by any means, so Tito still had a tough opponent.

Tito will beat Vitor when they fight and they're not protecting him against Bustemante.

BTW: How dare those fans for chanting USA! I was at the fights and quite appalled.

Dude, wtf do you want them chanting when an American fights a foreign fighter?

Regarding the UFC: It was weak but they've been consistently putting on good shows. The last show had 6 of 7 fights ending in KO or sub. The rules had nothing to do with some of the weak fights. Just poor matchups and guys like Hallman using closed guard and laying there!

later.....

bobby_steeles · 10-08-2001, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by keithws

Dude, wtf do you want them chanting when an American fights a foreign fighter?

you're the big lion's den fan, aren't you?
i rest my case.

it's not like bustamante was from afghanistan. brazilians started this shit. to disrespect them or any one of them like that shows either an ignorant and/or a jealous atitude. the ufc wouldn't just be different without the brazilians, it simply would never have existed.

10-03-2001, 09:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Angel_of_Pain Novice Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Montreal Quebec Canada Posts: 207 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	UFC consperacy Dont you see UFC dont want Tito to lose! They need Tito he is the poter bad boy he is the cool guy who sale tickets, it's not Couture (by the way he's a great fighter and I like the man) that will sale ticket that will be the poster guy that will be the UFC. What they want is to build guy try to make them look good and be bashed by Tito! Dont belive me? Even Tanner 3 match and boom destroy, Elvis Sinosic he was only at is fourth match in NHB A draw in ucc, a loss to frank Shamrock and a win over Horn comeon! I think the ufc could be good but damn hey need to fix there problem quickly because it will turn around and become shit it will become something political all about the money and the poster boy __________________ "im about 210 5'5" but im not all fat"-Noctural BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

10-03-2001, 09:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lacrymosa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,555 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hmmmmm....... enteresting...... __________________ Lacrymosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla.

10-04-2001, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
keithws Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 221 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree that the UFC definitely enjoys Tito as a poster boy but they're definitely not protecting him! Afterall, they put him against Vitor for the championship. It's not their fault the guy got injured. Secondly, Vlad's (the janitor) no joke! He at the very least is a top 10 lightheavy if not 5. I think the major problem is, there's not too many lightheavies than can compete with Tito. Bustemante, Lidell, Silva, Vlad, Randleman, and Vitor or probably the only guys out there that can give him a run for his money. What can you say, Tito's an animal that's more of a heavyweight by fight time.. later dude __________________ "As long as they stick with fighting BJJ world champions, the japanese will be fine."

10-04-2001, 04:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
TracyKarate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 193 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sadly, this is the nature of the beast. Now that wagering is taking place on UFC title fights, ,there will be a definite "influence" on match ups and decisions. Las Vegas is aptly named "SIN City"., and there is a reason for that. The UFC is on the road to becoming as watered down as boxing. __________________ "The mind does not choose the situation, but through practice can choose how it is to be realized."

10-04-2001, 07:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
oviedoh45 Novice Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I disagree There's no telling what can happen in todays sports. If Tito gets knocked out or just beat it would be just another underdog that was underestimated. You can't assume anymore that the top contender is gonna win. First Tank Abott gets his knocked out by a UFC debut fighter (Pedro Rizzo) Lennox, Trinidad, etc...

10-04-2001, 08:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Frogman Novice Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	There are others who can compete with Tito at light heavyweight and give him a run for his money. These fighters may be doing other things such as Pride. Frank Shamrock who walks around at 190 or below is 20lbs lighter than Tito but kicked his butt a couple of years ago. Although it is obvious Tito has improved since then, so has Shamrock. How about Sakuraba? A Tito vs. Sak fight would generate as much excitement as Tito vs. Vitor. Bas Rutten is another tough mother who can challenge Tito.

10-04-2001, 08:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
edro Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Muskogee, OK Posts: 134 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	1234567890

10-05-2001, 12:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hookah Smokin Caterpillar Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 393 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the LHW division is just as stacked as any division out there. The only division that is truely stacked beyond belief is the LW division, the rest are all about the same. So in my opinion there are quite a few guys I think can take out Tito. Not that Tito is easy to take out, but everyone is so even its hard to see an undefeated fighter in today's MMA. __________________ "Living is easy with eyes closed, Misunderstanding all you see, Its getting hard to be someone but it all works out, It doesn't matter much to me..." - Lennon, John

10-05-2001, 03:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tony10 Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 527 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just exactly how tall/heavy is Tito? __________________ Are you not entertained?!

10-05-2001, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
edro Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Muskogee, OK Posts: 134 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	1234567890

10-05-2001, 09:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Frogman Novice Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	bobby steeles: my thougths exactly. without foreign influence, the ufc would be just boxing and wrestling.

10-05-2001, 10:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Angel_of_Pain Novice Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Montreal Quebec Canada Posts: 207 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not saying that Zuffa master plan was to make sure Vitor is injured during training so they can put Vlad in there and get beat, cause everyone knew Vlad had the skill to hang in there but not to win. And Chuck Liddel decision was horrible, but listen to this Liddel and Tito always said they would never face each other= if bustamente win he become #1 contender (as he should be) but now that liddel got the "win" well Tito will face some other dude and Bustamente will have to wait. Is it just me or is everything going in place so we have to wait and wait... __________________ "im about 210 5'5" but im not all fat"-Noctural BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

10-07-2001, 08:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
keithws Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 221 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't know. The whole conspiracy thing sounds pretty weak. They scheduled Tito against Vitor! What more can they do. Vladdy's a legit top 10 middle weight and no scrub by any means, so Tito still had a tough opponent. Tito will beat Vitor when they fight and they're not protecting him against Bustemante. BTW: How dare those fans for chanting USA! I was at the fights and quite appalled. Dude, wtf do you want them chanting when an American fights a foreign fighter? Regarding the UFC: It was weak but they've been consistently putting on good shows. The last show had 6 of 7 fights ending in KO or sub. The rules had nothing to do with some of the weak fights. Just poor matchups and guys like Hallman using closed guard and laying there! later..... __________________ "As long as they stick with fighting BJJ world champions, the japanese will be fine."

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