Shamrock/Royce Superfight

JaredExtreme · 10-14-2001, 04:44 AM

So I went to Barnes and Noble yesterday and paroused the martial arts section. I came across a book about Ken Shamrock that told his life story and some basic techniques. One thing I found interesting was the part about the Superfight versus Royce. The book praised Shamrock and painted him as a hero. When I watched the Superfight with one of my friends (who knows NOTHING about MA), my friend commented that he had much more respect for the Royce since he was smaller and left the ring very respectfully, whereas Shamrock paraded around like he had won the match. Your thoughts?

Karlinhos · 10-14-2001, 10:32 AM

*yawn*

SweepEm · 10-14-2001, 11:45 AM

Of all the Gracie Brothers, I believe that Royce is known throughout the family as the gentleman out of the bunch.

I was training with Royce at the time of the inception of the UFC and all of the ones he competed in.

There are many stories I've shared here about him since I was able to talk to him after his matches and get a first hand earfull of what went on before during and after the matches.

If you watch UFC 1, after Shamrock taps out, the referee didn't see the tap and so Shamrock tries to keep going and you see Royce get up into Ken's ear and tell him something. Royce told me and well, it was to the effect of letting him know that he indeed did tap and have some sportsmanship.

Frogman · 10-14-2001, 09:40 PM

Royce is still the man!!

Monkey Magic · 10-17-2001, 07:44 AM

Ken exposed BJJ as a gimmick. He beat Lenninger the same way, showing both Judokas to be powerless in a real fight.

tripitaka · 10-17-2001, 07:51 AM

Ha ha ha Ken got done by little skinny Royce !!!!! Ken is crap !

Monkey Magic · 10-17-2001, 08:04 AM

Ken laid a beating on Royce! The first time wasn't fair because Royce used submission that noone knew but everyone else only used striking, that Royce already knew

tripitaka · 10-17-2001, 08:45 AM

He lost due to him wearing tight red swimming trunks... What a bender !!!

Monkey Magic · 10-17-2001, 09:19 AM

You're a gender bender sex offender

Frogman · 10-17-2001, 06:45 PM

LMAO...you guys are hilarious.

Hey, let's not forget Shamrock fought in Japan many times before the UFC and submission was part of his game. Shamrock outweighed Royce by 40 lbs and still got tapped. This just goes to show BJJ has the best submissions bar none. But that's not to say BJJ alone is enough.

pharochuck · 10-21-2001, 06:42 PM

when you factor in the size and the first victory went to royce in a dominating fashion. ken's performance in the rematch was not that impressive

MadMax · 10-22-2001, 03:47 PM

All Shamrock did was hide from Royce the whole match. Ken literally hid his head and never tried one thing. Royce was active throughout the whole fight both striking and going for submissions. You could tell that after the match Shamrock was very excited that he survived Royce, showing that he knew he did not have a chance in hell of beating Royce. The one strike Ken did land was given to him by the Ref when they forced the fighters back to their feet. 40lbs....red speedos.....getting worked in less than 2 minutes in the first match..and all he can do is stall in the 2nd match...very disappointing for Shamrock. Ken is overrated for someone who has never won a single elimination UFC. Considering Royce's lack of success in his last match, Wallid choking him out, and the general consensus that he is not the unbeatable fighter he was once thought to be...this goes to further show Shamrock is way overrated.

Monkey Magic · 10-23-2001, 04:57 AM

"he knew he did not have a chance in hell of beating Royce" - and he still stepped up to fight! that is the sign of a warrior! everyone thought he would get beat but he didn't, he took royce's warrior spirit

10-14-2001, 04:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	Shamrock/Royce Superfight So I went to Barnes and Noble yesterday and paroused the martial arts section. I came across a book about Ken Shamrock that told his life story and some basic techniques. One thing I found interesting was the part about the Superfight versus Royce. The book praised Shamrock and painted him as a hero. When I watched the Superfight with one of my friends (who knows NOTHING about MA), my friend commented that he had much more respect for the Royce since he was smaller and left the ring very respectfully, whereas Shamrock paraded around like he had won the match. Your thoughts? __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

10-14-2001, 10:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650	yawn __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

10-17-2001, 07:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Monkey Magic Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 44	Ken exposed BJJ as a gimmick. He beat Lenninger the same way, showing both Judokas to be powerless in a real fight. __________________ From it then came a stone monkey. The nature of monkey was irrepressible!

10-17-2001, 07:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
tripitaka Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 22	Ha ha ha Ken got done by little skinny Royce !!!!! Ken is crap ! __________________ I'm hard !

10-17-2001, 08:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
Monkey Magic Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 44	Ken laid a beating on Royce! The first time wasn't fair because Royce used submission that noone knew but everyone else only used striking, that Royce already knew __________________ From it then came a stone monkey. The nature of monkey was irrepressible!

10-14-2001, 11:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
SweepEm Master Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,846	Of all the Gracie Brothers, I believe that Royce is known throughout the family as the gentleman out of the bunch. I was training with Royce at the time of the inception of the UFC and all of the ones he competed in. There are many stories I've shared here about him since I was able to talk to him after his matches and get a first hand earfull of what went on before during and after the matches. If you watch UFC 1, after Shamrock taps out, the referee didn't see the tap and so Shamrock tries to keep going and you see Royce get up into Ken's ear and tell him something. Royce told me and well, it was to the effect of letting him know that he indeed did tap and have some sportsmanship.

10-14-2001, 09:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Frogman Novice Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17	Royce is still the man!!

10-17-2001, 08:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
tripitaka Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 22	He lost due to him wearing tight red swimming trunks... What a bender !!! __________________ I'm hard !

10-17-2001, 09:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Monkey Magic Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 44	You're a gender bender sex offender __________________ From it then came a stone monkey. The nature of monkey was irrepressible!

10-17-2001, 06:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Frogman Novice Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17	LMAO...you guys are hilarious. Hey, let's not forget Shamrock fought in Japan many times before the UFC and submission was part of his game. Shamrock outweighed Royce by 40 lbs and still got tapped. This just goes to show BJJ has the best submissions bar none. But that's not to say BJJ alone is enough.

10-21-2001, 06:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
pharochuck Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: oakland Posts: 17	when you factor in the size and the first victory went to royce in a dominating fashion. ken's performance in the rematch was not that impressive

10-22-2001, 03:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
MadMax Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 32	All Shamrock did was hide from Royce the whole match. Ken literally hid his head and never tried one thing. Royce was active throughout the whole fight both striking and going for submissions. You could tell that after the match Shamrock was very excited that he survived Royce, showing that he knew he did not have a chance in hell of beating Royce. The one strike Ken did land was given to him by the Ref when they forced the fighters back to their feet. 40lbs....red speedos.....getting worked in less than 2 minutes in the first match..and all he can do is stall in the 2nd match...very disappointing for Shamrock. Ken is overrated for someone who has never won a single elimination UFC. Considering Royce's lack of success in his last match, Wallid choking him out, and the general consensus that he is not the unbeatable fighter he was once thought to be...this goes to further show Shamrock is way overrated.

10-23-2001, 04:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Monkey Magic Novice Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 44	"he knew he did not have a chance in hell of beating Royce" - and he still stepped up to fight! that is the sign of a warrior! everyone thought he would get beat but he didn't, he took royce's warrior spirit __________________ From it then came a stone monkey. The nature of monkey was irrepressible!

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