Don Frye vs. Ken Shamrock: wagers wanted!

Renfield · 02-16-2002, 11:33 AM

I would have thought this forum would be buzzing with the oddsmakers picks on Shamrock vs. Frye! Isn't anyone interested in handicapping this one?

Give me some picks and odds on this one, people!!

In my opinion, this one could go either way but it will depend what type of fighter shows up on the 24th: the old Shamrock who was prepared to fight in the 1st Severn vs. Shamrock superfight, or the more recent Shamrock who gassed in the Fujita fight. Ditto for Frye: He's actually fought more recently fhan Shamrock, so that could be a big plus. On the other hand, if you consider his old fights, he almost never went up against a submission specialist. The only submission expert he fought was Bitteti, and he did the smart thing: landed some near-knockout punches before going to the ground. Can he do that with someone like Shamrock, whom he does not outsize nor have an enormous reach advantage on?

If Shamrock can get an early takedown, I'd go with Shamrock, if it stays on the feet, Frye. Anyone know if Shamrock has been training appropriately for this one?

Well, here's my esimate on this one:

3:2 Shamrock. Opinions everyone!

Zeke · 02-16-2002, 04:43 PM

I like to watch both of them. It should be good. If I had to bet on the fight, I would have to lean toward Frye. I think he might tough it out longer if the fight gets tough. Frye is probably a little better boxer and a better wrestler, Shamrock probably has the better submission skills. Just my opinion.

JaredExtreme · 02-16-2002, 07:24 PM

I think I'd give Frye the slight edge due to Shamrock's recent hiatus from MMA.

Royce owns Ken.

Mr. Miyagi · 02-16-2002, 10:29 PM

I think Royce Gracie will win.

JaredExtreme · 02-16-2002, 11:21 PM

I want to see Royce Gracie vs Shamrock AND Frye!! Handicap match! my money's on Royce

BirdofPrey · 02-21-2002, 09:40 AM

Coleman's boxing skills are average at most yet he outboxed Don Frye. I just don't see what weapons Frye has by which he would likely defeat Shamrock except via decision from Shamrock running out of gas and just working to hang on.

crazyjoe380 · 02-22-2002, 03:25 PM

fu.ck all these fights..

i say...

ROYCE GRACIE VS KASUZHI SAKURABA

AGAIN...LET ROYCE TRAIN IN SOME BOXING...HE'LL BE SET...
CAUSE THAT LAST FIGHT IN GRAN PRIX HE PUNCHED LIKE A PRICK....

Mr. Miyagi · 02-22-2002, 04:28 PM

I don't think Coleman "outboxed" Frye, he was able to pound him because he outpositioned him. Plus that is hard to gage because Frye was already quite exhausted from his previous fights while Coleman was somewhat fresh. Both of these guys have done nothing impressive lately and this fight is only exciting because they are both early UFC standouts.
That being said I hope that Shamrock gets his ass beat.

KurtS · 02-22-2002, 04:30 PM

I'm going with Freddy Mercury AKA Don Frye. Mainly becuase Shamrock is a bitch now. This should be a good fight though.

edro · 02-23-2002, 04:53 PM

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Hungryjack · 02-25-2002, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KurtS
I'm going with Freddy Mercury AKA Don Frye. Mainly becuase Shamrock is a bitch now. This should be a good fight though.

No man, you got it all wrong. Freddy Mercury is Dan Servern. Don Frye is Tom Selleck

crazyjoe380 · 02-25-2002, 01:39 PM

KEN WILL WIN

crazyjoe380 · 02-25-2002, 01:40 PM

SORRY... but he will win

02-16-2002, 11:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Renfield Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don Frye vs. Ken Shamrock: wagers wanted! I would have thought this forum would be buzzing with the oddsmakers picks on Shamrock vs. Frye! Isn't anyone interested in handicapping this one? Give me some picks and odds on this one, people!! In my opinion, this one could go either way but it will depend what type of fighter shows up on the 24th: the old Shamrock who was prepared to fight in the 1st Severn vs. Shamrock superfight, or the more recent Shamrock who gassed in the Fujita fight. Ditto for Frye: He's actually fought more recently fhan Shamrock, so that could be a big plus. On the other hand, if you consider his old fights, he almost never went up against a submission specialist. The only submission expert he fought was Bitteti, and he did the smart thing: landed some near-knockout punches before going to the ground. Can he do that with someone like Shamrock, whom he does not outsize nor have an enormous reach advantage on? If Shamrock can get an early takedown, I'd go with Shamrock, if it stays on the feet, Frye. Anyone know if Shamrock has been training appropriately for this one? Well, here's my esimate on this one: 3:2 Shamrock. Opinions everyone!

02-16-2002, 07:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think I'd give Frye the slight edge due to Shamrock's recent hiatus from MMA. Royce owns Ken. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

02-16-2002, 11:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I want to see Royce Gracie vs Shamrock AND Frye!! Handicap match! my money's on Royce __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

02-22-2002, 04:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
KurtS Novice Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Berkeley Posts: 24 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm going with Freddy Mercury AKA Don Frye. Mainly becuase Shamrock is a bitch now. This should be a good fight though. __________________ Kurt

02-25-2002, 01:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	All karate fighters ....please come here. SORRY... but he will win

02-16-2002, 04:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zeke Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 57 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I like to watch both of them. It should be good. If I had to bet on the fight, I would have to lean toward Frye. I think he might tough it out longer if the fight gets tough. Frye is probably a little better boxer and a better wrestler, Shamrock probably has the better submission skills. Just my opinion.

02-16-2002, 10:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think Royce Gracie will win.

02-21-2002, 09:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
BirdofPrey Novice Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 6 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Coleman's boxing skills are average at most yet he outboxed Don Frye. I just don't see what weapons Frye has by which he would likely defeat Shamrock except via decision from Shamrock running out of gas and just working to hang on.

02-22-2002, 03:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	fu.ck all these fights.. i say... ROYCE GRACIE VS KASUZHI SAKURABA AGAIN...LET ROYCE TRAIN IN SOME BOXING...HE'LL BE SET... CAUSE THAT LAST FIGHT IN GRAN PRIX HE PUNCHED LIKE A PRICK....

02-22-2002, 04:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't think Coleman "outboxed" Frye, he was able to pound him because he outpositioned him. Plus that is hard to gage because Frye was already quite exhausted from his previous fights while Coleman was somewhat fresh. Both of these guys have done nothing impressive lately and this fight is only exciting because they are both early UFC standouts. That being said I hope that Shamrock gets his ass beat.

02-23-2002, 04:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
edro Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Muskogee, OK Posts: 134 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	1234567890

02-25-2002, 01:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	KEN WILL WIN

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