Gracie Jiu Jitsu IS the best all around style!!!! - Page 2

Flash · 04-13-2002, 06:35 PM

The lack of any striking training in "pure" GJJ is a serious weakness. Shooting in, clinching and taking down a striker using GJJ works great when the guy is a "pure" boxer or kick-boxer who doesn't have a clue of you're going to do but if it's someone with experience in how to fend of a shoot, unless you have some experience in stand-up fighting, the results could be ugly.

I recall one class in which one guy had a hard time shooting in and was continuously getting pasted in the process. In the locker room, another guy told him: "Don't worry - in the street, you'll eventually get the clinch."

Being a smart-ass, I chipped in with: "Yeah, either that or get knocked out."

They were a little bit surprised by my remark - it hadn't occured to them that they could conceivably get KO'ed; they took it as a foregone conclusion that a shoot would eventually end up in a clinch.

Roy Gaflaer · 04-13-2002, 08:40 PM

See thats where you are wrong. There is striking in Gracie JJ. Rorian teaches diversionary striking technique and punch defense. Maybe you guys should spend less time on sport jiu jitsu or time training with a teacher who is versed in the self defense aspects of BJJ/GJJ.

SweepEm · 04-13-2002, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roy Gaflaer
Maybe you guys should spend less time on sport jiu jitsu or time training with a teacher who is versed in the self defense aspects of BJJ/GJJ.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

and this gem is from a guy who claims to live in a very small town.
Is this what they call small town thinking?

Hey Roy, how long did you train with Rorion?

The free class or maybe you've watch the GIA and the tapes dozens of times.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Roy Gaflaer · 04-13-2002, 11:23 PM

I recieved my blue belt from Royce, I think that qualifies me!

You are all so blinded. Every great fighter is a descendant of a great Gracie

Minotauro
Bustamante
Sperry
Rickson
Royler
Royce

and so on and so forth

By the way how was Coleman tapped out? did Minotauro take him down? Did he do some fancy wrestling move? No I think it was TRIANGLE from the GUARD! ALL GRACIE JIU JITSU

Karlinhos · 04-14-2002, 01:27 AM

hahahahaha...

roy gaflaer = ROOKIE

give it a rest newbie... go back to the kung fu forum.

Grahf1 · 04-14-2002, 01:29 AM

Didn't I tell you guys that Roy is a troll?

Roy Gaflaer · 04-14-2002, 03:24 PM

What the hell is a troll? No kung fu is not effective nor is it practical. All I'm getting from you idiots are insults, not one person can prove I'm wrong! You all know I'm ****inging right

Karlinhos · 04-14-2002, 07:50 PM

grahf... i concur. good call.

drixx2 · 04-15-2002, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roy Gaflaer

By the way how was Coleman tapped out? did Minotauro take him down? Did he do some fancy wrestling move? No I think it was TRIANGLE from the GUARD! ALL GRACIE JIU JITSU

dude, the gracies didn't invent the triangle choke....look in judo, jiu-jitsu (old, traditional, small circle) it's there...

Szczepankiewicz · 04-15-2002, 10:42 AM

Everyone knows you shouldn't go to the ground with two big sweaty guys. No one ever said you can't do anything.

Besides, my martial art is the superior martial art.

It teaches me to:
1) Keep my mouth shut.
2) Don't go looking for trouble.
3) Treat people with respect.
4) Run Away!!! Run Away!!!
5) Jump spinning back kick. If done correctly, no can defend.

SZ

soho · 04-15-2002, 10:47 AM

"5) Jump spinning back kick. If done correctly, no can defend. "

Thats the crane kick dude...No can defend...but only in the first movie

Szczepankiewicz · 04-15-2002, 11:38 AM

You are correct as usual Soho. However, this stems from a friend of mine who studies T A I Kung Fu. This is how we make fun of him and his 'jump spinning back (kick)'.

I do believe it's the only move he knows.

Here is a video of my art in action.

http://www.weirdlinks.com/videoclips/Catattack.avi

You can't stop it! you can only HOPE to contain it!

SZ

ReRateMe · 04-15-2002, 02:23 PM

mighty marr0w · 04-15-2002, 10:45 PM

Roy, styles don't win fights people win fights. One kick in the yambag and the fued is over.

"I received my bluebelt from Royce" you probably picked it off Royce's waist with your teeth, you pink pokemon. Didn't you announce that already twice, once here and once in another thread. That's kinda gay, dude. Did you do any tournaments?

Roy Gaflaer · 04-15-2002, 10:51 PM

I never stayed in Los Angeles/Torrance for more than a week at a time, but I did remember Torrance had their own Tournaments with their own rules. I remember Royce telling us we didn't compete in other Tournaments because "we don't associate with the fleas". His words, not mine.

I think the Pink little guy is adorable!

04-13-2002, 06:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
Flash Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	GJJ the best? The lack of any striking training in "pure" GJJ is a serious weakness. Shooting in, clinching and taking down a striker using GJJ works great when the guy is a "pure" boxer or kick-boxer who doesn't have a clue of you're going to do but if it's someone with experience in how to fend of a shoot, unless you have some experience in stand-up fighting, the results could be ugly. I recall one class in which one guy had a hard time shooting in and was continuously getting pasted in the process. In the locker room, another guy told him: "Don't worry - in the street, you'll eventually get the clinch." Being a smart-ass, I chipped in with: "Yeah, either that or get knocked out." They were a little bit surprised by my remark - it hadn't occured to them that they could conceivably get KO'ed; they took it as a foregone conclusion that a shoot would eventually end up in a clinch.

04-13-2002, 11:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
Roy Gaflaer Novice Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A very small town Posts: 164 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I recieved my blue belt from Royce, I think that qualifies me! You are all so blinded. Every great fighter is a descendant of a great Gracie Minotauro Bustamante Sperry Rickson Royler Royce and so on and so forth By the way how was Coleman tapped out? did Minotauro take him down? Did he do some fancy wrestling move? No I think it was TRIANGLE from the GUARD! ALL GRACIE JIU JITSU Last edited by Roy Gaflaer; 04-13-2002 at 11:29 PM.

04-14-2002, 01:27 AM	#20 (permalink)
Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hahahahaha... roy gaflaer = ROOKIE give it a rest newbie... go back to the kung fu forum. __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

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Karlinhos Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 650 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	grahf... i concur. good call. __________________ www.grappletv.com - Accept the ORIGINATORS, not the DUPLICATORS...!!!

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04-13-2002, 08:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
Roy Gaflaer Novice Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A very small town Posts: 164 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	See thats where you are wrong. There is striking in Gracie JJ. Rorian teaches diversionary striking technique and punch defense. Maybe you guys should spend less time on sport jiu jitsu or time training with a teacher who is versed in the self defense aspects of BJJ/GJJ.

04-14-2002, 01:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
Grahf1 Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 118 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Didn't I tell you guys that Roy is a troll?

04-14-2002, 03:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
Roy Gaflaer Novice Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A very small town Posts: 164 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What the hell is a troll? No kung fu is not effective nor is it practical. All I'm getting from you idiots are insults, not one person can prove I'm wrong! You all know I'm ****inging right

04-15-2002, 10:42 AM	#25 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Everyone knows you shouldn't go to the ground with two big sweaty guys. No one ever said you can't do anything. Besides, my martial art is the superior martial art. It teaches me to: 1) Keep my mouth shut. 2) Don't go looking for trouble. 3) Treat people with respect. 4) Run Away!!! Run Away!!! 5) Jump spinning back kick. If done correctly, no can defend. SZ

04-15-2002, 10:47 AM	#26 (permalink)
soho Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 83 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"5) Jump spinning back kick. If done correctly, no can defend. " Thats the crane kick dude...No can defend...but only in the first movie

04-15-2002, 11:38 AM	#27 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You are correct as usual Soho. However, this stems from a friend of mine who studies T A I Kung Fu. This is how we make fun of him and his 'jump spinning back (kick)'. I do believe it's the only move he knows. Here is a video of my art in action. http://www.weirdlinks.com/videoclips/Catattack.avi You can't stop it! you can only HOPE to contain it! SZ

04-15-2002, 02:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
ReRateMe Novice Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts

04-15-2002, 10:45 PM	#29 (permalink)
mighty marr0w Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 18 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Roy, styles don't win fights people win fights. One kick in the yambag and the fued is over. "I received my bluebelt from Royce" you probably picked it off Royce's waist with your teeth, you pink pokemon. Didn't you announce that already twice, once here and once in another thread. That's kinda gay, dude. Did you do any tournaments?

04-15-2002, 10:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
Roy Gaflaer Novice Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A very small town Posts: 164 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I never stayed in Los Angeles/Torrance for more than a week at a time, but I did remember Torrance had their own Tournaments with their own rules. I remember Royce telling us we didn't compete in other Tournaments because "we don't associate with the fleas". His words, not mine. I think the Pink little guy is adorable!

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