What Happened to Tina Shamrock?

ATZLAN · 05-04-2002, 02:50 AM

Not rumor....facts are....Ken and Tina Are Not divorced..California Case still pending....they have been separated for two years,or so....Ken and Alicia have been dating for three years,or so ....and no baby ....so far.......it has been noted that Ken has also been seen with women other then Alicia Webb....the book he wrote was a crock....no family man there.......Ken is not even paying child support nor alimony...you can access these facts at any California County Court house , as a matter of public record..I did....what a let down.

JaredExtreme · 05-04-2002, 03:27 AM

Tipicalcharmer · 05-04-2002, 02:47 PM

I honestly would have never believed it had I not gone to the San Diego courthouse myself. I saw this post on kenshamrock.com and got pissed off. Ken was my idol. So I decided to see if it was true, just for curiousity, and that ass has his kids on welfare and is not paying child support or alimony. I read his book, and like Atzlan said, what a "f*!!*n" crock. I thought that he would be someone to look up to...hell no! Your word is all you have as a man.....what a !@#@%! Tina, your the bomb, hope to see you in the field some day, Ken is nothing without you. And Alicia....you #$@%, hope all goes bad for you....that's what you get for @@#$% a man that is married!

Ring King · 05-04-2002, 05:16 PM

checked it out,it's all true. Shamrock is a F@#$'n looser.Rumor has it that Gracie to fight Shamrock and give all money to Shamrock kids. Someone should check it out.Wonder why he might come out of retirement,makes sence. Shamrock is going to get his @#$ kicked, again, by Gracie. Someone should make a poll on "Gracie vs. Shamrock, money to go to Shamrock kids, what do you think?"

Clash Man · 05-05-2002, 01:41 AM

Hey,I read that posting on kenshamrock.com, I went back and that @$$ took the entire forum off. What a p***y! So I decided to do some research, and it's all true! That !!!@#@ does have his kids on welfare! Did he think that we didn't care about that shit? He made money off us fans when we bought his sorry @$$ book, and he's a F###'N liar! I usually post on the underground, so guess what KEN, I hope Gracie Kicks your @$$, again, and does give that money to your kids!

Tipicalcharmer · 05-06-2002, 02:36 PM

This is true...I was training and I heard that someone e-mailed Gracie and passed this forum on to him...he is thinking of fighting Shamrock to pay him back. Says that f@#$r has no honor. Plus, Shamrock to sign with WWF in the next month.Ken big news for you, you can't sign shit till you take care of your kids you p#$$y!Plus already seen this posted on MMA..Like it says you @$$, you can run but you can't hide!

Ring King · 05-06-2002, 02:45 PM

How about that shit! I heard that same rumor. Wasn't going to post untill it was confirmed.Gracie to fight Shamrock wouldn't be such a bad idea.That F#$%r needs a good @$$ kickn. That would be bigger than a Tito fight! More money!I think the hate ratings on Shamrock just went up! Take care of your Kids F#$%R!

JaredExtreme · 05-07-2002, 12:58 AM

Is it just me or do TipicalCharmer, Clash Man, and Ring King sound like the same person?

Heel Hook · 05-07-2002, 02:12 AM

Had to delete this just in case

MEB Boy · 05-08-2002, 11:50 PM

This is tragic for his kids if it is true. Sorry, I didn't have the time to read/check the sources, so I'm just responding to this post.
But why are you all so angry? There's deadbeat dads in every city and town and you and I end up paying for their kids welfare/food stamp, etc w/ our taxes. On the other side of the coin, there's single mom's w/ 5 kids from 5 different dads and mom's only goal is to get pregnant again, as they'll get more government cheese. And all of us better continue working, as your tax dollars are very much needed. I'm not saying, there aren't many, many people in dire need of help, government support, etc, and if this story is true, then I'd say Shamrock's wife and kids are in need. But I just din't understand the extant of everyone anger as we probably all know someone or a friend of a friend doing the same thing.

I'm really not trying to start a long, drawn out debate on the welfare system, etc, as I don't have the time, motivation or inclination for this. I'm just curious about everyone's extreme anger.

On a side note, the coolest and kindest MMA fighters I ever met and got pictures with were Frank Shamrock, Josh Barnett, Kimo (a damn cool guy, spoke w/ us for 15 minutes in the mall), and John Lewis. The biggest MMA jerk I met was Ken Shamrock. At a Superbrawl in either 1996 or 1997 (can't remembe which) he refused to take a picture w/ me and 2-3 other fans who asked. It was before the show and no one else was around. He was just walking around alone, and he said if he took a picture everyone would come running up for the same and he had no time for that.
:-)
Later
MEB Boy

Heel Hook · 05-09-2002, 01:44 AM

MEB Boy, there's a major discussion going on about this at a thread at www.jiujitsugear.com. Check it out.

Groin Grab · 05-09-2002, 07:02 PM

I'll tell you it wouldn't be such a big deal had Shamrock never written his little book and tried to make it look like he was some kind family man saint helping the world. I hate that book it's a total lie it tries to make shamrock look like a person and a fighter that he is not. The bottom line is Shamrock is a phoney and he sucks he got his ass kicked by Gracie he got his ass man handled by Don Frye in pride and I hope he gets his ass kicked again. The only reason he's been able to compete through all the years is because of his steroid pumped body as far as technique is concerned Ken Shamrock is a piece o shit. I also solute you ken shamrock with a nice

MEB Boy · 05-10-2002, 12:31 AM

I'll check out that link.
thanks

MEB Boy

JAV · 06-11-2002, 11:01 PM

Does anyone have the facts why Ken has flipped? This does not register with his background from Inside the Lion's Den.

How are Tina and the children getting along?

fishr · 06-12-2002, 04:11 PM

I know with all the shyt that's been going around and all the rumors finally I'm coming out of the closet and setting the situation straite. This is the truth and whatever anybody else says probably is just rumors or just an educated guess unless you somehow have connection with Tina, Alicaia or the man Bob Shamrock. This is old very old news. I knew about this 2 years. And I kept my mouth shut but I can see there are alot of missed facts.

Facts are:
-Shamrock IS devorced.
-" does visit his kids once in a while as I was told
-The whole welfare thing...don't know. But it ticks me off that people will say he's not paying welfare when they don't have postitive proof. At least I admit that I don't know and not act all big.
-Marrage was on the rocks 2 years in advance.
-Ken met Alicia and things clicked.
-no baby

by: ATZLAN
Not rumor....facts are....Ken and Tina Are Not divorced..California Case still pending....they have been separated for two years,or so....Ken and Alicia have been dating for three years,or so ....and no baby ....so far.......it has been noted that Ken has also been seen with women other then Alicia Webb....the book he wrote was a crock....no family man there.......Ken is not even paying child support nor alimony...you can access these facts at any California County Court house , as a matter of public record..I did....what a let down.
~~~
OK, I share your disappionment brother but some of your facts are mixed up. I see you posting this all over the net. In the guestbook and kenshamrock.com and Deluxe Martial Arts Forum. It sounds like your trying to create a riot. I honestly doubt the county court house gave you this info cause its illeagal without probagal cause, I mean why would they give out personal information to a stranger without written concent from the family. Don't think so.

You know people some things are just not meant to be. And at least Ken relized this and didn't stay and possiabally make things works like fighting and ect. However I don't condone what happened. But people you can't sit there and say that some of you have been marriage/engaged and had to call it off cause you knew it wasn't working. It's life and nothing is perfect. So get off you high horse and get over it.

One thing that drew me to be a fan is his dedication, preperation and intensity. If he keeps that then I'm all for it!!!

Don't mean to be pissy but unless any of you know for certain dont start crap.

Again, I don't condone what Shamrock did. That was pretty shytty on his part but it oviousally wasn't working out with Tina. OK? Enough said.
fishr

View Poll Results: Should Ken Shamrock be able to still fight even if he ditched his family?
Yes- the hell with what he said in his book about family!	4	26.67%
Yes-Alicia Webb is more important anyways	0	0%
No-Make him make a public apology before it is even considered.	3	20.00%
No-black ball him for neglecting his family and putting them on welfare.	5	33.33%
No opinion	3	20.00%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

05-04-2002, 02:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
ATZLAN Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego Ca. Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ken Shamrock, you can run, but you can't hide! Not rumor....facts are....Ken and Tina Are Not divorced..California Case still pending....they have been separated for two years,or so....Ken and Alicia have been dating for three years,or so ....and no baby ....so far.......it has been noted that Ken has also been seen with women other then Alicia Webb....the book he wrote was a crock....no family man there.......Ken is not even paying child support nor alimony...you can access these facts at any California County Court house , as a matter of public record..I did....what a let down. Last edited by ATZLAN; 05-04-2002 at 03:59 PM.

05-04-2002, 03:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	__________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme Last edited by JaredExtreme; 05-07-2002 at 03:37 AM.

05-04-2002, 05:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ring King Novice Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	checked it out,it's all true. Shamrock is a F@#$'n looser.Rumor has it that Gracie to fight Shamrock and give all money to Shamrock kids. Someone should check it out.Wonder why he might come out of retirement,makes sence. Shamrock is going to get his @#$ kicked, again, by Gracie. Someone should make a poll on "Gracie vs. Shamrock, money to go to Shamrock kids, what do you think?" Last edited by Ring King; 05-04-2002 at 05:20 PM.

05-07-2002, 12:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is it just me or do TipicalCharmer, Clash Man, and Ring King sound like the same person? __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

05-04-2002, 02:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tipicalcharmer Novice Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I honestly would have never believed it had I not gone to the San Diego courthouse myself. I saw this post on kenshamrock.com and got pissed off. Ken was my idol. So I decided to see if it was true, just for curiousity, and that ass has his kids on welfare and is not paying child support or alimony. I read his book, and like Atzlan said, what a "f!!n" crock. I thought that he would be someone to look up to...hell no! Your word is all you have as a man.....what a !@#@%! Tina, your the bomb, hope to see you in the field some day, Ken is nothing without you. And Alicia....you #$@%, hope all goes bad for you....that's what you get for @@#$% a man that is married!

05-05-2002, 01:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Clash Man Novice Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey,I read that posting on kenshamrock.com, I went back and that @$$ took the entire forum off. What a p***y! So I decided to do some research, and it's all true! That !!!@#@ does have his kids on welfare! Did he think that we didn't care about that shit? He made money off us fans when we bought his sorry @$$ book, and he's a F###'N liar! I usually post on the underground, so guess what KEN, I hope Gracie Kicks your @$$, again, and does give that money to your kids!

05-06-2002, 02:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tipicalcharmer Novice Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is true...I was training and I heard that someone e-mailed Gracie and passed this forum on to him...he is thinking of fighting Shamrock to pay him back. Says that f@#$r has no honor. Plus, Shamrock to sign with WWF in the next month.Ken big news for you, you can't sign shit till you take care of your kids you p#$$y!Plus already seen this posted on MMA..Like it says you @$$, you can run but you can't hide!

05-06-2002, 02:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ring King Novice Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	How about that shit! I heard that same rumor. Wasn't going to post untill it was confirmed.Gracie to fight Shamrock wouldn't be such a bad idea.That F#$%r needs a good @$$ kickn. That would be bigger than a Tito fight! More money!I think the hate ratings on Shamrock just went up! Take care of your Kids F#$%R!

05-07-2002, 02:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
Heel Hook Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Had to delete this just in case Last edited by Heel Hook; 05-07-2002 at 01:22 PM.

05-08-2002, 11:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
MEB Boy Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Hawaii-Texas Posts: 75 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is tragic for his kids if it is true. Sorry, I didn't have the time to read/check the sources, so I'm just responding to this post. But why are you all so angry? There's deadbeat dads in every city and town and you and I end up paying for their kids welfare/food stamp, etc w/ our taxes. On the other side of the coin, there's single mom's w/ 5 kids from 5 different dads and mom's only goal is to get pregnant again, as they'll get more government cheese. And all of us better continue working, as your tax dollars are very much needed. I'm not saying, there aren't many, many people in dire need of help, government support, etc, and if this story is true, then I'd say Shamrock's wife and kids are in need. But I just din't understand the extant of everyone anger as we probably all know someone or a friend of a friend doing the same thing. I'm really not trying to start a long, drawn out debate on the welfare system, etc, as I don't have the time, motivation or inclination for this. I'm just curious about everyone's extreme anger. On a side note, the coolest and kindest MMA fighters I ever met and got pictures with were Frank Shamrock, Josh Barnett, Kimo (a damn cool guy, spoke w/ us for 15 minutes in the mall), and John Lewis. The biggest MMA jerk I met was Ken Shamrock. At a Superbrawl in either 1996 or 1997 (can't remembe which) he refused to take a picture w/ me and 2-3 other fans who asked. It was before the show and no one else was around. He was just walking around alone, and he said if he took a picture everyone would come running up for the same and he had no time for that. :-) Later MEB Boy

05-09-2002, 01:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
Heel Hook Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	MEB Boy, there's a major discussion going on about this at a thread at www.jiujitsugear.com. Check it out.

05-09-2002, 07:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Groin Grab Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 104 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll tell you it wouldn't be such a big deal had Shamrock never written his little book and tried to make it look like he was some kind family man saint helping the world. I hate that book it's a total lie it tries to make shamrock look like a person and a fighter that he is not. The bottom line is Shamrock is a phoney and he sucks he got his ass kicked by Gracie he got his ass man handled by Don Frye in pride and I hope he gets his ass kicked again. The only reason he's been able to compete through all the years is because of his steroid pumped body as far as technique is concerned Ken Shamrock is a piece o shit. I also solute you ken shamrock with a nice

05-10-2002, 12:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
MEB Boy Novice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Hawaii-Texas Posts: 75 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll check out that link. thanks MEB Boy

06-11-2002, 11:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What made Ken Shamrock flip out? Does anyone have the facts why Ken has flipped? This does not register with his background from Inside the Lion's Den. How are Tina and the children getting along?

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06-12-2002, 04:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
fishr Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: VT Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Coming to Shamrock's aid I know with all the shyt that's been going around and all the rumors finally I'm coming out of the closet and setting the situation straite. This is the truth and whatever anybody else says probably is just rumors or just an educated guess unless you somehow have connection with Tina, Alicaia or the man Bob Shamrock. This is old very old news. I knew about this 2 years. And I kept my mouth shut but I can see there are alot of missed facts. Facts are: -Shamrock IS devorced. -" does visit his kids once in a while as I was told -The whole welfare thing...don't know. But it ticks me off that people will say he's not paying welfare when they don't have postitive proof. At least I admit that I don't know and not act all big. -Marrage was on the rocks 2 years in advance. -Ken met Alicia and things clicked. -no baby by: ATZLAN Not rumor....facts are....Ken and Tina Are Not divorced..California Case still pending....they have been separated for two years,or so....Ken and Alicia have been dating for three years,or so ....and no baby ....so far.......it has been noted that Ken has also been seen with women other then Alicia Webb....the book he wrote was a crock....no family man there.......Ken is not even paying child support nor alimony...you can access these facts at any California County Court house , as a matter of public record..I did....what a let down. ~~~ OK, I share your disappionment brother but some of your facts are mixed up. I see you posting this all over the net. In the guestbook and kenshamrock.com and Deluxe Martial Arts Forum. It sounds like your trying to create a riot. I honestly doubt the county court house gave you this info cause its illeagal without probagal cause, I mean why would they give out personal information to a stranger without written concent from the family. Don't think so. You know people some things are just not meant to be. And at least Ken relized this and didn't stay and possiabally make things works like fighting and ect. However I don't condone what happened. But people you can't sit there and say that some of you have been marriage/engaged and had to call it off cause you knew it wasn't working. It's life and nothing is perfect. So get off you high horse and get over it. One thing that drew me to be a fan is his dedication, preperation and intensity. If he keeps that then I'm all for it!!! Don't mean to be pissy but unless any of you know for certain dont start crap. Again, I don't condone what Shamrock did. That was pretty shytty on his part but it oviousally wasn't working out with Tina. OK? Enough said. fishr __________________ If you lived a LITTLE, your not living ENOUGH!!