the best fighter of the century

jeronimo · 05-09-2002, 06:05 AM

Who is the best fighter of the century, all styles put together ?

JaredExtreme · 05-09-2002, 10:07 AM

Ooooooh good question. Hmmm I'm going with Rickson Gracie.

Szczepankiewicz · 05-09-2002, 12:36 PM

Frank Dux of course.

Lithp · 05-09-2002, 02:43 PM

Fred Ettish

JaredExtreme · 05-09-2002, 03:20 PM

and Sub-Zero !

Goku · 05-09-2002, 04:35 PM

Ryu from Street Fighter man... Muay Thai... Shotokan Karate... Jeet Kune Do... this boy has it all when it gets to skills in fighting...

P.S. I know Ryu's online Animé but when that guy Busted Out with Sub-Zero... I just couldn't hold back...

JKogas · 05-09-2002, 06:56 PM

Royce Gracie.

Even though he's not enjoyed the same success recently that he did in his early years, he was instrumental in introducing his family's art to the world and in turn, creating quite a revolution. He is STILL as tough as they come and, he's a great person besides.

Biker · 05-10-2002, 01:54 AM

The Greatest. Ali. No other fighter has been such a loud mouthed braggart who could back up his claim to being the greatest.

jeronimo · 05-10-2002, 02:57 AM

Szczepankiewicz,

You wrote "Frank Dux". He is the guy who inspired the movy "Bloodsport, ins't it ?
He claimed to have 365 wins without a loss, if I'm right. A kind of Rickson Gracie, in nin-jitsu. But he had no chance to prove his efficeincy in a sportive area like Rickson did in Japan Vale Tudo (at an already advanced age : about 40).
Is Frank Dux an instructor for soldiers now, as I read somewhere ?
Is he link to the guy who won the UFC 3, a nin-jitsu fighter too ?

likuid · 05-10-2002, 11:49 AM

isn't it silly to use the phrase 'fighter of the century' as far as our opinion is concerned? most people here couldn't name a handful of fighters pre-1990's. (hmmm, that sounded billigerent...oops)

Biker · 05-10-2002, 12:12 PM

How is stating the truth being belligerant?

jeronimo · 05-11-2002, 03:28 AM

Likuid,

Even if most people here could not name any fighter before the 90's as you said, at least some could. And I respect the opinion of the people involved in this forum, so, I'm asking them a so wide open question.

What is your opinion, Likuid, dear member of this forum ?

05-11-2002, 04:20 AM

Silly me, I thought we were in the 21st century............You guys leave me behind in the intellect department.

jeronimo · 05-11-2002, 07:26 AM

Good point !

I should have writen : of the century just finished (20th).

If I talked about the 21st century it would be easier. I would have presented a list of champions in activity at least since 2001, as follow :

- 1) Lennox Lewis (England, UK) - 1m96, 112 kg, 36 years, for professionnal english boxing

- 2) Rulon Gardner (Wyoming, USA) - 1m88, 125 kg,
30 years, for greco-roman wrestling

- 3) Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan) - about 1m90, 95 kg, for amateur english boxing

- 4) David Musulbes (Russia) - 1m86, 130 kg, 29 years, for freestyle wrestling

- 5) Alexander Mikhaylin (Russia) - 1m90, 100-120 kg, 22 years, for judo

- 6) Greenvink (Nederlands) - 1m95-2m, 95 kg, 20 years, for taekwondo

- 7) for shotokan Karate : Christophe Pinna (France) -1m85, 82 kg, 33 years

- 8) for Kung Fu (ou Wushu) : Bazigit "Volk" Atajev (Russia) - 1m85, 100 kg, 22 years

- 9) for brazilian Jiu-Jitsu : Fernando "Margarida" Pontes (Brazil) - about 1m80, 85 kg, 21 years

- 10) for Kick-Boxing / Muay Thaï : Mark Hunt (New-Zeland)- 1m78, 114 kg, 27 years

- 11) for submission wrestling (and also brazilian jiu-Jitsu) : Ricardo Arona (Brazil) - 1m80, 91 kg

- 12) for Sambo : Boubeker Ghemini (France) about.1m80, 105 kg

- 13) for Kyokushinkaï Karaté : Hajime Kazumi (Japan) - 1m80, 97 kg, 30 years

- 14) for Pancrase / Shootfighting : Semmy Schilt (Nederlands) - 2m11, 118 kg, 28 years

- 15) for Vale Tudo (and again brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) : Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira (Brazil) 1m90, 105 kg, 23 years

- 16) and for Sumo : Fiamalu Penitani alias Musashimaru (Hawaï, USA) - 1m91, 219 kg, 30 years

May be you have your favorite in this list ...

controllerzero · 05-11-2002, 09:26 AM

Nobody's mentioned Bruce Lee yet?

05-09-2002, 06:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
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JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	Ooooooh good question. Hmmm I'm going with Rickson Gracie. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

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JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115	and Sub-Zero ! __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

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Goku Novice Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 18	Ryu from Street Fighter man... Muay Thai... Shotokan Karate... Jeet Kune Do... this boy has it all when it gets to skills in fighting... P.S. I know Ryu's online Animé but when that guy Busted Out with Sub-Zero... I just couldn't hold back... __________________ "One with a strong mind will always beat the one with a strong body. One must always remember that the body does what the mind says..."

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Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109	Frank Dux of course.

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JKogas Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 13	Royce Gracie. Even though he's not enjoyed the same success recently that he did in his early years, he was instrumental in introducing his family's art to the world and in turn, creating quite a revolution. He is STILL as tough as they come and, he's a great person besides.

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Biker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 224	The Greatest. Ali. No other fighter has been such a loud mouthed braggart who could back up his claim to being the greatest.

05-10-2002, 02:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
jeronimo Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: île de la Réunion, océan Indien Posts: 28	Szczepankiewicz, You wrote "Frank Dux". He is the guy who inspired the movy "Bloodsport, ins't it ? He claimed to have 365 wins without a loss, if I'm right. A kind of Rickson Gracie, in nin-jitsu. But he had no chance to prove his efficeincy in a sportive area like Rickson did in Japan Vale Tudo (at an already advanced age : about 40). Is Frank Dux an instructor for soldiers now, as I read somewhere ? Is he link to the guy who won the UFC 3, a nin-jitsu fighter too ?

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likuid Novice Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 99	isn't it silly to use the phrase 'fighter of the century' as far as our opinion is concerned? most people here couldn't name a handful of fighters pre-1990's. (hmmm, that sounded billigerent...oops)

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Biker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 224	How is stating the truth being belligerant?

05-11-2002, 03:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
jeronimo Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: île de la Réunion, océan Indien Posts: 28	Likuid, Even if most people here could not name any fighter before the 90's as you said, at least some could. And I respect the opinion of the people involved in this forum, so, I'm asking them a so wide open question. What is your opinion, Likuid, dear member of this forum ?

05-11-2002, 04:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Silly me, I thought we were in the 21st century............You guys leave me behind in the intellect department.

05-11-2002, 07:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
jeronimo Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: île de la Réunion, océan Indien Posts: 28	Good point ! I should have writen : of the century just finished (20th). If I talked about the 21st century it would be easier. I would have presented a list of champions in activity at least since 2001, as follow : - 1) Lennox Lewis (England, UK) - 1m96, 112 kg, 36 years, for professionnal english boxing - 2) Rulon Gardner (Wyoming, USA) - 1m88, 125 kg, 30 years, for greco-roman wrestling - 3) Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan) - about 1m90, 95 kg, for amateur english boxing - 4) David Musulbes (Russia) - 1m86, 130 kg, 29 years, for freestyle wrestling - 5) Alexander Mikhaylin (Russia) - 1m90, 100-120 kg, 22 years, for judo - 6) Greenvink (Nederlands) - 1m95-2m, 95 kg, 20 years, for taekwondo - 7) for shotokan Karate : Christophe Pinna (France) -1m85, 82 kg, 33 years - 8) for Kung Fu (ou Wushu) : Bazigit "Volk" Atajev (Russia) - 1m85, 100 kg, 22 years - 9) for brazilian Jiu-Jitsu : Fernando "Margarida" Pontes (Brazil) - about 1m80, 85 kg, 21 years - 10) for Kick-Boxing / Muay Thaï : Mark Hunt (New-Zeland)- 1m78, 114 kg, 27 years - 11) for submission wrestling (and also brazilian jiu-Jitsu) : Ricardo Arona (Brazil) - 1m80, 91 kg - 12) for Sambo : Boubeker Ghemini (France) about.1m80, 105 kg - 13) for Kyokushinkaï Karaté : Hajime Kazumi (Japan) - 1m80, 97 kg, 30 years - 14) for Pancrase / Shootfighting : Semmy Schilt (Nederlands) - 2m11, 118 kg, 28 years - 15) for Vale Tudo (and again brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) : Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira (Brazil) 1m90, 105 kg, 23 years - 16) and for Sumo : Fiamalu Penitani alias Musashimaru (Hawaï, USA) - 1m91, 219 kg, 30 years May be you have your favorite in this list ...

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controllerzero Novice Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: eastern nc Posts: 28	Nobody's mentioned Bruce Lee yet?