The Ultimate in Martial Arts

JAV · 06-13-2002, 06:33 PM

Since Ken flew from Tina and the kids, did he also dismantle the Lion's Den gyms? According to his book, Ken described his relationships with the fighters as brothers, another family.

Do you think that someone influenced him to dismantle the Lion's Den?

TracyKarate · 06-22-2002, 07:11 PM

Actually, lions in the wild do not stay with their female counterparts after mating. They roam off in search of food and more mates. They do not care for or raise cubs at all. It is not in their nature, so the naming of Ken's gyms is very apt to say the least...is it not?

06-23-2002, 11:51 AM

Very apt indeed. And Lion's can lick their own genitals, a past time that Shamrock aspires to.

JAV · 06-23-2002, 12:38 PM

TracyKarate-You are correct about lions. Only problem Ken is not a lion but a human being. He should know better especially in regards to his children's well-being.

All said it's in one ear and out the other...Ken may be a lion in disguise.

TracyKarate · 06-25-2002, 05:06 AM

No, he is an animal. He does not belong in society.

Szczepankiewicz · 06-25-2002, 10:45 AM

I am not so sure I agree with your analysis on Lion behavior being accurate....

What I would like to see is all you VTGs say this to Shamrock directly. But, of course, that will never happen....

You guys crack me up.

SZ

06-25-2002, 11:23 AM

Of course it won't hapen you idiot. He will beat our heads in! Are you mad?

JAV · 06-25-2002, 01:06 PM

I have no fear sitting down with Shamrock and discussing anything he would like to discuss.

If he is a man as described in his book, than discussions would be pretty interesting. However, since many things have changed from the book's publication, I still will have no fear sitting down with him. I would tell him I could reinforce all discussions with concrete examples from his book.

The question(s) then remain How does Ken Shamrock respond to things he stated in his book revolving around personal responsiblities, family, loyalty, integrity, and respect. These are just a few items gathered from his book.

I do not believe Shamrock will be able to reinforce his current actions as to what he wrote in his book. I beleive he will ignore the statemnet and respond inappropriately. In other words, he will respond in such a way as it reflects his character of today.

06-25-2002, 01:08 PM

Like I said! He would beat yer head in!

JAV · 06-25-2002, 04:14 PM

Then it just proves that he no longer wants to associate himself with the lifestyle from his book. He has reverted to his earlier days before Tina.

Then, how come he has not been arrested for refusing to support his family (Tina and the children)? Is not the dead beat parent law covered throughout all states? In Connecticut, he would be arrested for his refusal to support his family!

Still not afraid to communicate with him one to one.

Biker · 06-25-2002, 04:33 PM

The laws on child support vary from state to state. Here in Michigan, if you either do not or can not afford to pay child support you can end up in jail for a while. While you're in jail, how can you work to make child support payments? And how often is your job waiting for you when you get out?

On the other hand, that is Ken Shamrock's problem. If it really means so much to anybody, send his kids a check to make them feel better. Somehow it seems to me that he paid his ex-wife or girlfriend or whatever she is to him some huge lump some of cash from the get-go making child support payments merely a formality.

Just my humble opinion.

YeLLa-TiGeR · 06-25-2002, 08:30 PM

Hey JAV, what the heck is with all your posts only relating to Shamrock???

JAV · 06-25-2002, 08:34 PM

What does anyone think about the upcoming Tito Ortiz fight against Shamrock? Heard it is to take place in September.

Szczepankiewicz · 06-26-2002, 10:15 AM

Sniff... Sniff.... is that Troll Jam I smell?

TracyKarate · 06-28-2002, 11:44 PM

Yes, if a troll is someone who only makes posts to disrupt the forum, then that is what you are doing. We are having a discussion on Ken Shamrock and his immorality, and the only input you can add is a childish "Why don't you say that to his face". What have you added to this discussion? I am sorry, but you are one of the negative people on this forum who are constantly labeling others and here you are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing.
I believe you are smelling "hypocrite" jam.

06-13-2002, 06:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lion's Den Dismantled? Since Ken flew from Tina and the kids, did he also dismantle the Lion's Den gyms? According to his book, Ken described his relationships with the fighters as brothers, another family. Do you think that someone influenced him to dismantle the Lion's Den?

06-22-2002, 07:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
TracyKarate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 193 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually, lions in the wild do not stay with their female counterparts after mating. They roam off in search of food and more mates. They do not care for or raise cubs at all. It is not in their nature, so the naming of Ken's gyms is very apt to say the least...is it not? __________________ "The mind does not choose the situation, but through practice can choose how it is to be realized."

06-23-2002, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lion's Den dismantled TracyKarate-You are correct about lions. Only problem Ken is not a lion but a human being. He should know better especially in regards to his children's well-being. All said it's in one ear and out the other...Ken may be a lion in disguise.

06-25-2002, 05:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
TracyKarate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 193 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, he is an animal. He does not belong in society. __________________ "The mind does not choose the situation, but through practice can choose how it is to be realized."

06-25-2002, 08:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey JAV, what the heck is with all your posts only relating to Shamrock??? __________________ "Nemo me impune lacssit"

06-23-2002, 11:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Very apt indeed. And Lion's can lick their own genitals, a past time that Shamrock aspires to.

06-25-2002, 10:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am not so sure I agree with your analysis on Lion behavior being accurate.... What I would like to see is all you VTGs say this to Shamrock directly. But, of course, that will never happen.... You guys crack me up. SZ

06-25-2002, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Of course it won't hapen you idiot. He will beat our heads in! Are you mad?

06-25-2002, 01:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have no fear sitting down with Shamrock and discussing anything he would like to discuss. If he is a man as described in his book, than discussions would be pretty interesting. However, since many things have changed from the book's publication, I still will have no fear sitting down with him. I would tell him I could reinforce all discussions with concrete examples from his book. The question(s) then remain How does Ken Shamrock respond to things he stated in his book revolving around personal responsiblities, family, loyalty, integrity, and respect. These are just a few items gathered from his book. I do not believe Shamrock will be able to reinforce his current actions as to what he wrote in his book. I beleive he will ignore the statemnet and respond inappropriately. In other words, he will respond in such a way as it reflects his character of today.

06-25-2002, 01:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Like I said! He would beat yer head in!

06-25-2002, 04:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Then it just proves that he no longer wants to associate himself with the lifestyle from his book. He has reverted to his earlier days before Tina. Then, how come he has not been arrested for refusing to support his family (Tina and the children)? Is not the dead beat parent law covered throughout all states? In Connecticut, he would be arrested for his refusal to support his family! Still not afraid to communicate with him one to one.

06-25-2002, 04:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Biker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 224 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The laws on child support vary from state to state. Here in Michigan, if you either do not or can not afford to pay child support you can end up in jail for a while. While you're in jail, how can you work to make child support payments? And how often is your job waiting for you when you get out? On the other hand, that is Ken Shamrock's problem. If it really means so much to anybody, send his kids a check to make them feel better. Somehow it seems to me that he paid his ex-wife or girlfriend or whatever she is to him some huge lump some of cash from the get-go making child support payments merely a formality. Just my humble opinion.

06-25-2002, 08:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
JAV Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What does anyone think about the upcoming Tito Ortiz fight against Shamrock? Heard it is to take place in September.

06-26-2002, 10:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sniff... Sniff.... is that Troll Jam I smell?

06-28-2002, 11:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
TracyKarate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 193 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, if a troll is someone who only makes posts to disrupt the forum, then that is what you are doing. We are having a discussion on Ken Shamrock and his immorality, and the only input you can add is a childish "Why don't you say that to his face". What have you added to this discussion? I am sorry, but you are one of the negative people on this forum who are constantly labeling others and here you are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing. I believe you are smelling "hypocrite" jam. __________________ "The mind does not choose the situation, but through practice can choose how it is to be realized."

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