Wrestling going to BJJ - Page 2

mjmnam · 07-25-2002, 01:53 AM

yea, with hands on belt, and both elbows in. place one knee (right or left) in the center between his legs then push his legs apart with your elbows while kind of sliding your body back to unhook his feet

Ice Phoenix · 07-25-2002, 10:03 AM

[both arms in is the safest. grab his belt and put both your elbows on the insides of his thighs, that'll set it up so you can break the guard.]

[yea, with hands on belt, and both elbows in. place one knee (right or left) in the center between his legs then push his legs apart with your elbows while kind of sliding your body back to unhook his feet]

People, if you are so crap that you have to grab the opponent's belt to execute a basic guard pass, or anything else for that matter, you should be ashamed of yourselves and your crappy technique, cause BJJ wasn't intended to only work when the other guy has got a god damn belt!

Also, feeding WrestlerBJJ with crappy technique descriptions like those is only gonna lead him to bad technique!

mjmnam · 07-25-2002, 01:03 PM

feel free to correct me with your explanation

Ice Phoenix · 07-25-2002, 02:49 PM

[feel free to correct me with your explanation]

Ok, I will.

Since no one has actually asked how to basic pass the guard, I wasn't going to explain, but now I've been asked, so -

1) Straighten your back with good posture and grab the center of his jacket with both hands. (Grinding your knuckles into his mid-section here will also help a heap to loosen him up!)

2) Stand up on your left or right leg (we'll go with left) at 7:30 degrees to his head at 12:00.

3) Push at his right knee with your left hand whilst twisting your hips backward and away from it.

4) As his legs open, pull your right elbow in against your right thigh to block his left leg, but maintain grip.

5) Reach under his right leg with your left arm and grab his upper lapel.

6) Drive forward with your shoulder and both legs to take his knee to his face.

7) Drive your left elbow to the mat on the other side of his head.

8) Rotate your torso slightly to your right to allow his leg to slide by your face.

9) Secure Side Control position.

* Learn to keep pressure and control over his body throughout the whole move with practice.

* Maintain good posture while passing.

* This is just one method of guard passing.

Fighter · 07-26-2002, 09:10 PM

So WrestlerBJJ are you enjoing BJJ?

WrestlerBJJ · 07-28-2002, 11:56 AM

I love it. ive had 4 practices and im doing great. white belts are nothing at this point. so he has me with blue. Its great fun. thanks for all the good advice

MrPoopy · 07-28-2002, 01:31 PM

wrestler, it's good that you have some blue belts to work with.

when i started bjj, i didn't have submissions skills or wrestling skills, so when i started rolling with a friend that was a great wrestler, it was almost impossible to get position on him. and without position, submission was impossible.

you already have a great advantage over white belts. now you need the submission skills.

Fighter · 07-30-2002, 03:46 AM

Its all about how you go about your training. If I was you Id ask your teacher for some private lessons to get even further ahead.

07-25-2002, 02:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	[feel free to correct me with your explanation] Ok, I will. Since no one has actually asked how to basic pass the guard, I wasn't going to explain, but now I've been asked, so - 1) Straighten your back with good posture and grab the center of his jacket with both hands. (Grinding your knuckles into his mid-section here will also help a heap to loosen him up!) 2) Stand up on your left or right leg (we'll go with left) at 7:30 degrees to his head at 12:00. 3) Push at his right knee with your left hand whilst twisting your hips backward and away from it. 4) As his legs open, pull your right elbow in against your right thigh to block his left leg, but maintain grip. 5) Reach under his right leg with your left arm and grab his upper lapel. 6) Drive forward with your shoulder and both legs to take his knee to his face. 7) Drive your left elbow to the mat on the other side of his head. 8) Rotate your torso slightly to your right to allow his leg to slide by your face. 9) Secure Side Control position. * Learn to keep pressure and control over his body throughout the whole move with practice. * Maintain good posture while passing. * This is just one method of guard passing. Last edited by Ice Phoenix; 07-25-2002 at 02:53 PM.

07-26-2002, 09:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
Fighter Advanced Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 593 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	So WrestlerBJJ are you enjoing BJJ? __________________ "A dream without action is useless, An action without a dream is useless" Email me any time at: Fighter@jkd.com.hk

07-28-2002, 01:31 PM	#22 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	wrestler, it's good that you have some blue belts to work with. when i started bjj, i didn't have submissions skills or wrestling skills, so when i started rolling with a friend that was a great wrestler, it was almost impossible to get position on him. and without position, submission was impossible. you already have a great advantage over white belts. now you need the submission skills. __________________ MrPoopy

07-30-2002, 03:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
Fighter Advanced Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 593 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its all about how you go about your training. If I was you Id ask your teacher for some private lessons to get even further ahead. __________________ "A dream without action is useless, An action without a dream is useless" Email me any time at: Fighter@jkd.com.hk

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07-25-2002, 01:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
mjmnam Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 100 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yea, with hands on belt, and both elbows in. place one knee (right or left) in the center between his legs then push his legs apart with your elbows while kind of sliding your body back to unhook his feet

07-25-2002, 10:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	[both arms in is the safest. grab his belt and put both your elbows on the insides of his thighs, that'll set it up so you can break the guard.] [yea, with hands on belt, and both elbows in. place one knee (right or left) in the center between his legs then push his legs apart with your elbows while kind of sliding your body back to unhook his feet] People, if you are so crap that you have to grab the opponent's belt to execute a basic guard pass, or anything else for that matter, you should be ashamed of yourselves and your crappy technique, cause BJJ wasn't intended to only work when the other guy has got a god damn belt! Also, feeding WrestlerBJJ with crappy technique descriptions like those is only gonna lead him to bad technique!

07-25-2002, 01:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
mjmnam Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 100 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	feel free to correct me with your explanation

07-28-2002, 11:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
WrestlerBJJ Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 16 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I love it. ive had 4 practices and im doing great. white belts are nothing at this point. so he has me with blue. Its great fun. thanks for all the good advice

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