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MinisterofDeath · 08-13-2002, 09:08 AM

I think the Kyu-BJJ combo sounds good. Being a dedicated student, training hard, and having a good instructor will make you a great fighter. Just pick something that makes you happy and go with it. If you train something that someone suggests and yuo dont really like it, you wont be learning much.

As for the mantis kung fu, if its southern style, then its petty damn similar to wing chun, but again, if KF is not your thing then stay away 'cause it will just delay your progress as a fighter.
Anyway good luck bro, and most of all have fun.

Ice Phoenix · 08-13-2002, 09:57 AM

conach, there was no particular reason I wrote that other than to follow along with what Crash Stitches said!

'Combat Effectiveness' is exactly as it sounds; skills that are successful in 'real-world' fighting, not sports competitions, dojo sparring or demonstrations, etc.

A Kyokushinkai-BJJ cross sounds great! A nice blend of powerful stand-up striking and grappling! If possible though, a few Judo throws thrown into the mix would be useful too, but not vital!

By the way, I thought Gerard Gourdeau was a French Kickboxer? Maybe I'm wrong, it was a long time ago...

aseepish · 08-14-2002, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Crash Stitches

I've read many articles where experts in Muay Thai have stated that you can become adept and effective at Muay Thai with 6 months of hard training. I think Vut Kramnark (sp?) said it, but I'm not too sure.

I think 3 months of Thai-style training should make one adept and effective at Muay Thai. But that's training full time, two sessions per day, plenty of cardio. I don't think this is an option for most people.

Kyokushin/BJJ sounds good to me too. It's a shame that your hours conflict with those of the Kali class.

MinisterofDeath · 08-14-2002, 11:19 AM

yeah, intense muay thai would be fockengrooven.

Crash Stitches · 08-15-2002, 02:59 AM

no doubt Kyokushinkai will harden your body, getting the crap beat out of you all the time. I'd consider that a good runner-up to kickboxing to crosstraion with BJJ.

BTW, I said I wasn't dissing all Kung Fu, I just began training in San Soo myself, by far the most realistic branch of the Chinese arts. My sifu also is a purple belt under Rigan Machado, and he crosstrains us in BJJ and grappling, making the san soo training even more effective.

MinisterofDeath · 08-15-2002, 09:06 AM

So whats San Soo like? I always here people talking about.

Crash Stitches · 08-16-2002, 02:51 AM

it's brutal, man. No real wasted motion that I've encountered so far, just decisive techniques that end fights. Plus, my sifu is also a purple belt in BJJ under Rigan Machado, and he incorporates that aspect into training as well.

H@pkid0ist · 08-19-2002, 10:23 AM

I do Hap Ki Do, Kuk Sool Kwan is very simular. For effectiveness and versatility it is tops. If you could I would cross train it with kali. their empty hand is awsome. Good luck.

Fighter · 08-24-2002, 04:38 AM

Any good sites on Hap Ki Do? Looking for good techs

H@pkid0ist · 08-24-2002, 11:11 AM

You can check out , I believe its the Austrailian Hapkido Association, or get on the net and just type in hapkido in several different ways. There is a lot of info out there .

08-13-2002, 09:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
MinisterofDeath Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the Kyu-BJJ combo sounds good. Being a dedicated student, training hard, and having a good instructor will make you a great fighter. Just pick something that makes you happy and go with it. If you train something that someone suggests and yuo dont really like it, you wont be learning much. As for the mantis kung fu, if its southern style, then its petty damn similar to wing chun, but again, if KF is not your thing then stay away 'cause it will just delay your progress as a fighter. Anyway good luck bro, and most of all have fun. __________________ Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself. Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility - Wong Shun Leung

08-14-2002, 11:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
MinisterofDeath Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah, intense muay thai would be fockengrooven. __________________ Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself. Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility - Wong Shun Leung

08-15-2002, 09:06 AM	#21 (permalink)
MinisterofDeath Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	cool yo So whats San Soo like? I always here people talking about. __________________ Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself. Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility - Wong Shun Leung

08-19-2002, 10:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
H@pkid0ist Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton, Va. Posts: 69 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I do Hap Ki Do, Kuk Sool Kwan is very simular. For effectiveness and versatility it is tops. If you could I would cross train it with kali. their empty hand is awsome. Good luck. __________________ ---2nd Dan Hap Ki Do--- Hap Ki Do: The Anti-Martial Art, Martial Art!!!

08-24-2002, 04:38 AM	#24 (permalink)
Fighter Advanced Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 593 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any good sites on Hap Ki Do? Looking for good techs __________________ "A dream without action is useless, An action without a dream is useless" Email me any time at: Fighter@jkd.com.hk

08-13-2002, 09:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	conach, there was no particular reason I wrote that other than to follow along with what Crash Stitches said! 'Combat Effectiveness' is exactly as it sounds; skills that are successful in 'real-world' fighting, not sports competitions, dojo sparring or demonstrations, etc. A Kyokushinkai-BJJ cross sounds great! A nice blend of powerful stand-up striking and grappling! If possible though, a few Judo throws thrown into the mix would be useful too, but not vital! By the way, I thought Gerard Gourdeau was a French Kickboxer? Maybe I'm wrong, it was a long time ago...

08-15-2002, 02:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Crash Stitches Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegass Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	no doubt Kyokushinkai will harden your body, getting the crap beat out of you all the time. I'd consider that a good runner-up to kickboxing to crosstraion with BJJ. BTW, I said I wasn't dissing all Kung Fu, I just began training in San Soo myself, by far the most realistic branch of the Chinese arts. My sifu also is a purple belt under Rigan Machado, and he crosstrains us in BJJ and grappling, making the san soo training even more effective.

08-16-2002, 02:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
Crash Stitches Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegass Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	it's brutal, man. No real wasted motion that I've encountered so far, just decisive techniques that end fights. Plus, my sifu is also a purple belt in BJJ under Rigan Machado, and he incorporates that aspect into training as well.

08-24-2002, 11:11 AM	#25 (permalink)
H@pkid0ist Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton, Va. Posts: 69 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can check out , I believe its the Austrailian Hapkido Association, or get on the net and just type in hapkido in several different ways. There is a lot of info out there . __________________ ---2nd Dan Hap Ki Do--- Hap Ki Do: The Anti-Martial Art, Martial Art!!!

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