Sumo wrestler vs TKD Master?

[Ice Phoenix]

They both suck! If a Sumo and TKD guy fought each other and were equal size/weight I would give the edge to the TKD guy cause when the dumb Sumo rushes in like a moron the TKD guy could just kick him in the head full power!

Put any Muay Thai/BJJ/Wrestler/Boxer guy in there though and they'd both get whooped!

[Victor]

If a sumo wrestler were to fight a TKD practioner, I would have to say the person who knows TKD. He has an advantage over the Sumo wrestler, because he has more of an arsanal, such as his feet, fists and maybe a couple fo throws. But if he were to try to throw a sumo wrestler, I'd hate to see the outcome.
The only thing I've ever seen a sumo wrestler do is pushing his opponent out of the ring. But on the other hand, if he falls on top of him, the TKD practioner will lose for sure.

[H@pkid0ist]

I personally cant see a TKD practitioner being the same physical characteristics of a sumo guy. Unless its a small sumo guy then I think the sumo guy is in trouble. As far as who would win. Don't know never seen these 2 styles fight eachother before.

[Lightning&Earth]

equal size and weight? heysoos marimba if we are talking about a sumo wrestler we are talking about a rather big individual,,and a TKD guy of equal weight and size? hahahahah it would be fun to watch,,,,almost as fun and funn'ee as watching midget mud wrestling.

when i see a fat guy able to kick like a TKD stylist does,,i will have seen it all. hahahahahahaha

Funnily enough I think you would be amazed if you saw the Sumo Wrestlers stretch. The genuine Japanese Sumo's can all do the splits.

I don't think we have yet seen a REAL highly ranked Sumo Wrestler in a MMA competition. Of course their own art is about varying ways to push and pull an opponent out of a small area. But I'm sure that man of them have fighting experience in other arts.

And they are not pure fat by any means. Most have an over generous surrounding of podge, but there is alot of muscle underneath.

I would love to see what happened if a genuine Japanese champion entered the Octagon.

[kuroshio]

Ohhh, you guys are sooooooo doggone humorous! As someone who is an active sumo, I would not get into the Octagon or anywhere else with a TKD practitioner. Then again, I don't train at all.

However.........Bri Thai, you are right. There are many in Japan and elsewhere who do have the ability to take on any striker or grappler. I have trained in Japan and Hawaii with some of the most athletic, strongest, flexible big men on the planet. Many have extensive judo or jiu-jitsu experience. Mainoumi, who was the tiniest of the recent stars at 5-7, 220, studied judo and aikido as well. The utter power that Akebono had was frightening to witness up close. I actually took a very light shot from Konishiki during a demonstration that I felt in my heart. Imagine if he were actually fighting you!

With the exception of Koji Kitao, who was a grand champion, or yokozuna (although one dubiously promoted and later disgraced), no high-level sumotori has been involved in NHB/MMA. Kitao was stuck in a bad situation when the ref stopped his UFC fight, but he might have been able to recover. Same with Teila Tuli, whom I know.

Many sumotori have good standing and ground grappling skills, and within sumo (and sumai, the combat art from which it descends) there are many throws, trips and slaps that can be used in unarmed combat.

And, most importantly, sumotori do train to absorb impacts to the head and body. I personally saw Naminohana, also a smaller competitor who is now retired, practice buchikamashi (smashing in head-first) by attacking the teppo pole (where you practice thrusts and strikes) headfirst. He was smashing his head into the pole, and you could hear the impact from quite far away.

And yes, the muscularity of the average sumotori is quite extensive and impressive - fat covered or not.

Speaking of other arts' practitioners - I saw Carlos Newton at the North American Sumo Championships in Toronto a couple of weeks ago.........

It's nice to hear from a Sumo stylist. I don't think I've ever conversed with one before -

But I disagree about Telia Tuli. If anything the ref stepped in too quick and saved Tuli from a serious beating. Look what that guy did to the big kickboxer in a later round. I thought he had crunched his ribs like potatoe chips.

The ref made a mockery of the "There are No Rules" by calling a time out. What the hell is time out in the early UFCs? Maybe that's why Big Jon McCarthy was called in for later events.

Imagine if he had let the fight continue after the time out? A recovered Tuli may then have beaten a man who had just beaten him, if you see what I mean.

That ref was way out of his depth.

[TKDguy]

i have seen many ssireum competitors(basically korean sumo with a lot smaller competitors) fight tkd guys and i would have to say that about 50% of the time. all they did was block using their forearms to get inside and then it was all over for the striking artist. in one instance the sserium practitioner actually squated down with his head down and then stood up throwning the tkd practitoner around 5 feet behind him and the tkd guy wasnt that small a guy. if u want to know more about sserium go to www.turtlepress.com and go under grappling videos. they can give you a much better explanation of the art.

[cakegirl]

This thread is 3 years old!

[Broadsword2004]

I do know in the first UFC competition, in the first fight, the Sumo guy pushed the Savate guy up against the fence; the Savate guy somehow managed to slip out of his grasp though, then spun around and threw a spinning hook kick right as the Sumo guy turned, and he nailed the Sumo guy in the eye with his heel. The Sumo guy had to be taken out of the fight, although he didn't want to.

No one knew it at the time, but the Savate guy had also broken one of his hands, too.

[Tom Yum]

That was a suprise match

[gordinho]

This is kuroshio - i forgot how to get back on this forum, so hence the new name.....now that I'm training again I would be willing to take on a TKD stylist....but not one of the greats!