The Ultimate in Martial Arts

thirtytwohits · 08-24-2002, 11:57 PM

i do bjj and other styles. i was in a fight today and i tried to grapple. im sorry to say that ive lost terribly. i fought a MuayThai guy, im a Muay Thai fighter myself but experimented with BJJ. every attempt to go in and grab him i made was unsuccessful becasue i was kneed. i was in a low profile stance and was kicked to the floor. next and every time, ill use Muay Thai. BJJ a good art for NHB because theres mats but dont use it on the streets, theres too much shit on the floor.

doubleouch · 08-25-2002, 12:04 AM

doesn't sound like you ever got to use bjj. You need to work on your clinch range more. If you had good work from the clinch and better takedowns you might feel differently about bjj.

thirtytwohits · 08-25-2002, 12:09 AM

im better than u think but the problem was i was afraid of rolling becasue the floor was ful of shit. i was being to carefull

Ryu (JKD?) · 08-25-2002, 12:39 AM

Why would YOU be on the "shit" on the floor? If you know how to grapple it's the opponent who gets his back cut up from "shit" on the floor.....not you.

And for that matter why are "fighters" so afraid of "shit" on the floor? Am I the only one who rolls on concrete, dirt, snow, etc.?

Ryu

thirtytwohits · 08-25-2002, 01:23 AM

i dotn litterally mean shit. i mean theres a bunch of crap on the floor. i hate rolling around in crap, i got rock up my spine one. it hurt bad

. it traumatizes me man

<----just kiddin bout that

Peedee Shaolin · 08-25-2002, 06:10 AM

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dzl256 · 08-27-2002, 10:42 PM

well which one was it thirtytwo were you afraid of rolling because there was stuff on the floor or were you unable to complete the clinch...

conach · 09-15-2002, 01:41 AM

Man... I bet a BJJ takedown on cement hurts like hell. Enough to make the opponent suffer in pain and get neutralized... I mean, imagine falling on a piece of rock, or just fall on your back to the concrete... After the takedown, u can pound his face and earlobes, and then apply a straight down forearm choke to finish... BJJ is way too cool...

Superdude · 09-15-2002, 03:22 PM

Against a good stiker you will never get a chance to get close enough to use your BJJ.

Martial Artist · 09-15-2002, 03:31 PM

Superdude, why dont you add UFC1 to your mass collection of videos?

conach · 09-15-2002, 04:31 PM

UFC I... Thanx for bringing it along. The final fight was Royce Gracie, of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu vs. Gerard Gordieu, a Kyokushinkai Karate-Savate practitioner. Gordieu was tough, a hard striker (knocked out a tooth in the fight vs. Tuli. and stomped Rosier till the ref stopped the fight). And who won? Gracie did.

See Superdude, u keep on underestimating BJJ. And you just take for granted the BJJ guy cannot strike... What if he knows Muay Thai, kicked ass and then finished the fight on the ground, huh? I mean, you know 20 different styles... Why can't a BJJ practitioner know some Thai or Kickboxing?? No... You are Superdude... "You would be unconscious before you would have a chance to even touch me"... C'mon man. Think a bit more. Tito Ortiz blabbered he could beat Frank Shamrock in UFC 22... And Shamrock is the perfect example. He's an awesome fighter, he has proved it many times without talking. Ortiz knows his stuff too, he's a UFC champ. Ortiz has gone a long way, and I respect him, regardless of his attitude. Shamrock defeated Ortiz in UFC 22... Made Tito tap the mat...

crazyjoe380 · 09-16-2002, 05:01 PM

i've used bjj in a fight but not the whole idea.. it's good to know it but mt and boxing are good idea..

i'll use take downs... and maybe a key lock to end it..

but i'll use the other stuff as a sneaky tacktic.. like if he's on top and you guard him but still got it under control ... you can arm lock him and he wont know... it's just how you do it..

i never tell someone i'm gonna fight on the street..
"hey **** it lets fight"... foo you just gotta attack.. be nice and say ?? what ? then boom strike.. dont let him get on his toes.. just get first hits and take him down... go for his eyes jab his nuts what ever.. no rules on the block..

conach · 09-16-2002, 06:52 PM

Hey Joe...

You're f..ing right, man...

Something like "Excuse me"?? Pow!! Elbow in the jaw??

Cool...

Very cool...

crazyjoe380 · 09-17-2002, 11:38 AM

thanks conach.. lol i try...

naw cause the last thing i want is to lose my teeth..
man, if you lose your teeth.. how many women do you think are gonna go out with you? ....lol not very many... i'm sneaky for the ladies...

my paranoid ass used to walk around with a mouth piece and some pepper spray incase like 3 or 4 fools wanna jump me.. i can mace a few ****ers... again.. "the eyes chico" ...they never lie!

conach · 09-17-2002, 12:56 PM

Mouth piece and Mace...

I think u r the man for the job... There's this guy Superdude that challenged everybody in the forum, so u might wanna practice some street with him. He says he's bad and that he can even take 3 attackers simultaneously and kick their ass. Have a look in his thread...

08-24-2002, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
thirtytwohits Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ive used bjj in a fight..... i do bjj and other styles. i was in a fight today and i tried to grapple. im sorry to say that ive lost terribly. i fought a MuayThai guy, im a Muay Thai fighter myself but experimented with BJJ. every attempt to go in and grab him i made was unsuccessful becasue i was kneed. i was in a low profile stance and was kicked to the floor. next and every time, ill use Muay Thai. BJJ a good art for NHB because theres mats but dont use it on the streets, theres too much shit on the floor.

08-25-2002, 12:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ryu (JKD?) Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 623 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Why would YOU be on the "shit" on the floor? If you know how to grapple it's the opponent who gets his back cut up from "shit" on the floor.....not you. And for that matter why are "fighters" so afraid of "shit" on the floor? Am I the only one who rolls on concrete, dirt, snow, etc.? Ryu __________________ Sekkendo...

09-15-2002, 03:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Superdude, why dont you add UFC1 to your mass collection of videos? __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

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08-25-2002, 12:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
doubleouch Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: portland, or Posts: 418 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	doesn't sound like you ever got to use bjj. You need to work on your clinch range more. If you had good work from the clinch and better takedowns you might feel differently about bjj.

08-25-2002, 12:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
thirtytwohits Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	im better than u think but the problem was i was afraid of rolling becasue the floor was ful of shit. i was being to carefull

08-25-2002, 01:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
thirtytwohits Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 34 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i dotn litterally mean shit. i mean theres a bunch of crap on the floor. i hate rolling around in crap, i got rock up my spine one. it hurt bad . it traumatizes me man <----just kiddin bout that

08-25-2002, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Peedee Shaolin Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	F U C K Y O U R O R N Y

08-27-2002, 10:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
dzl256 Novice Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 24 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	well which one was it thirtytwo were you afraid of rolling because there was stuff on the floor or were you unable to complete the clinch...

09-15-2002, 01:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
conach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Man... I bet a BJJ takedown on cement hurts like hell. Enough to make the opponent suffer in pain and get neutralized... I mean, imagine falling on a piece of rock, or just fall on your back to the concrete... After the takedown, u can pound his face and earlobes, and then apply a straight down forearm choke to finish... BJJ is way too cool...

09-15-2002, 03:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Superdude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Against a good stiker you will never get a chance to get close enough to use your BJJ.

09-15-2002, 04:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
conach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	UFC I... Thanx for bringing it along. The final fight was Royce Gracie, of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu vs. Gerard Gordieu, a Kyokushinkai Karate-Savate practitioner. Gordieu was tough, a hard striker (knocked out a tooth in the fight vs. Tuli. and stomped Rosier till the ref stopped the fight). And who won? Gracie did. See Superdude, u keep on underestimating BJJ. And you just take for granted the BJJ guy cannot strike... What if he knows Muay Thai, kicked ass and then finished the fight on the ground, huh? I mean, you know 20 different styles... Why can't a BJJ practitioner know some Thai or Kickboxing?? No... You are Superdude... "You would be unconscious before you would have a chance to even touch me"... C'mon man. Think a bit more. Tito Ortiz blabbered he could beat Frank Shamrock in UFC 22... And Shamrock is the perfect example. He's an awesome fighter, he has proved it many times without talking. Ortiz knows his stuff too, he's a UFC champ. Ortiz has gone a long way, and I respect him, regardless of his attitude. Shamrock defeated Ortiz in UFC 22... Made Tito tap the mat...

09-16-2002, 05:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i've used bjj in a fight but not the whole idea.. it's good to know it but mt and boxing are good idea.. i'll use take downs... and maybe a key lock to end it.. but i'll use the other stuff as a sneaky tacktic.. like if he's on top and you guard him but still got it under control ... you can arm lock him and he wont know... it's just how you do it.. i never tell someone i'm gonna fight on the street.. "hey **** it lets fight"... foo you just gotta attack.. be nice and say ?? what ? then boom strike.. dont let him get on his toes.. just get first hits and take him down... go for his eyes jab his nuts what ever.. no rules on the block..

09-16-2002, 06:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
conach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Joe... You're f..ing right, man... Something like "Excuse me"?? Pow!! Elbow in the jaw?? Cool... Very cool...

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09-17-2002, 11:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks conach.. lol i try... naw cause the last thing i want is to lose my teeth.. man, if you lose your teeth.. how many women do you think are gonna go out with you? ....lol not very many... i'm sneaky for the ladies... my paranoid ass used to walk around with a mouth piece and some pepper spray incase like 3 or 4 fools wanna jump me.. i can mace a few ****ers... again.. "the eyes chico" ...they never lie!

09-17-2002, 12:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
conach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mouth piece and Mace... I think u r the man for the job... There's this guy Superdude that challenged everybody in the forum, so u might wanna practice some street with him. He says he's bad and that he can even take 3 attackers simultaneously and kick their ass. Have a look in his thread...