The Ultimate in Martial Arts

kid lock · 08-28-2002, 11:52 AM

Silva- TKO rd.1
Goodridge-Tko rd. 1
Lebanner- Ko'd frye rd. 1
Hidehiko Yoshira- Submitted Royce(controversial)?
Ernesto Hoot/Semmy -Draw
Crocop- Tko-2nd rd. injury Saku
Rodrigo Nog.- Armbar on Sapp
Venetiaan- Decision

Bau13 · 08-28-2002, 03:57 PM

wasn't it supposed to be Mark Hunt ( 2001 K-1 champion) fighting Frye?

result was not surprising though.... they fought under K-1 rules! Frye didn't stand a chance against a top callibre K-1 guy....

Bau13 · 08-28-2002, 04:10 PM

ok just checked the K-1 site... it was LeBanner....
##$@in awesome!! wish I could've seen this!

MrPoopy · 08-28-2002, 05:57 PM

Royce just can't win

BellyOfTheBeast · 08-28-2002, 06:59 PM

damn Saku, Gracie and Frye all lost, it looks like it was an awesome card though sucks I dont get pride around here.

next big match Tito vs Shammrock at ufc 40 looking forward to that. Finally UFC is putting some top match ups together.

GrdStorm · 08-29-2002, 01:45 AM

I think Royce seriously does need to update his game.

kid lock · 08-29-2002, 09:18 AM

They said it was some type of controversial loss. The Gracies had denied a tap. What really surprised me was Rodrigo Nogueira submitting Bob Sapp. He has just proven himself to be the best heavyweight of NHB. He's already beat everybody!

Ice Phoenix · 08-29-2002, 01:24 PM

The Gracie's do NOT TAP!!!

I feel Royce vs Yoshida was WAY CONTROVERSIAL and should not be considered a win by Yoshida by any means IMHO!

"Real"PDShaolin · 08-29-2002, 05:55 PM

Its going to be declared a no-contest. The gracies recieved calls from pride apologizing for the mistake. Royce jumped up and pushed the ref he was so pissed. his ONE TIME the Graices DID get robbed and have a REASON to complain. Alot of people are saying this was on purpose.

tom b · 08-30-2002, 11:15 AM

No, the Gracies do not tap. Helio's corner threw in the towekl after his arm was broken and Royce was choked out, according to news repoorts. Maybe the 100th anniversary will go better. Or maybe they will have the grace to fight the next time under Judo rules, that excludes ankle locks, knee locks,kicks and puncehs and includes throws and pins as techniques of value.

At least the two games Judo winners, Kimura and Yoshida
had the guts to playby BJJ rules

On Yoshida it is much more a thrower then a matwork guy. Almost all of his matches at the Worlds and the Olympics were won by a single throw, uchimate., He retired last year shortky after C Honorato broke his arm during a throw in the quarter finals at the Sydney Olympics. It is very ironic that Honorato is from Brazil. It seems that Brazilian judokas can do more against Yoshida then BJJ'ers. Mastula of Poland would be a judoka who wins a hig percenatge of his matches on te mat.Havinfg sene hin in action I do not think there is any BBJ'er ( Sperry etc ) who could have come close to him

Maybe there will be a video made on the Judo invasion of BJJ is next

kid lock · 08-31-2002, 06:13 AM

I see you edited your reply, but whats up with your spelleing?

GrdStorm · 08-31-2002, 03:04 PM

tom b - you got your shit mixed up. If Royce was choked out how could he get up and start screaming. If I choked you out you'd be damn sure you'd be lying on the mat. Don't you want mma events???? Remember Enson in Nog's triangle??? completely out buddy.

Yoshida a thrower... he couldn't get off a single throw... nice.

Yoshida didn't win so it doesn't prove crap and another thing. If Yoshida is the best there is in the Judo world at ne-waza then they got some serious trouble. People the likes of Mario Sperry, Royler Gracie, JJ Machado will ****ing cream Yoshidas ass in a grappling match. Oh and if Yoshida were to mix it up in MMA, Nog would totally **** him up.

As for Royce, he wasn't ready. That guy needs to weight train and roll with some new training partners.

kid lock · 08-31-2002, 03:59 PM

True.

MrPoopy · 08-31-2002, 04:31 PM

What exactly were the special rules of royce's fight? And did he really lose or not? Was he getting his ass handed to him before they stopped the fight?
The gracie's don't tap, they just throw in the towel before they get totally whipped.

JaredExtreme · 08-31-2002, 09:11 PM

From what I heard, and I could be wrong, was that Yoshida had mount and a gi choke on Royce. The way Royce was underneath him, the ref couldn't see Royce's face. Aparrently the ref thought Royce was choked out because he thought Royce had gone limp, so he stopped the fight.

08-28-2002, 11:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
kid lock Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 168 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	PRIDE Winners Silva- TKO rd.1 Goodridge-Tko rd. 1 Lebanner- Ko'd frye rd. 1 Hidehiko Yoshira- Submitted Royce(controversial)? Ernesto Hoot/Semmy -Draw Crocop- Tko-2nd rd. injury Saku Rodrigo Nog.- Armbar on Sapp Venetiaan- Decision

08-28-2002, 03:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bau13 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 390 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	wasn't it supposed to be Mark Hunt ( 2001 K-1 champion) fighting Frye? result was not surprising though.... they fought under K-1 rules! Frye didn't stand a chance against a top callibre K-1 guy.... __________________ Everything happens for a reason... Last edited by Bau13; 08-28-2002 at 04:00 PM.

08-28-2002, 04:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bau13 Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 390 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok just checked the K-1 site... it was LeBanner.... ##$@in awesome!! wish I could've seen this! __________________ Everything happens for a reason...

08-28-2002, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Royce just can't win __________________ MrPoopy

08-28-2002, 06:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
BellyOfTheBeast Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Delaware, where's that? Posts: 66 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	damn Saku, Gracie and Frye all lost, it looks like it was an awesome card though sucks I dont get pride around here. next big match Tito vs Shammrock at ufc 40 looking forward to that. Finally UFC is putting some top match ups together. __________________ "Pain is merely weakness leaving the body"

08-29-2002, 01:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
GrdStorm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 121 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think Royce seriously does need to update his game. __________________ chesst = loser

08-29-2002, 09:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
kid lock Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 168 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	They said it was some type of controversial loss. The Gracies had denied a tap. What really surprised me was Rodrigo Nogueira submitting Bob Sapp. He has just proven himself to be the best heavyweight of NHB. He's already beat everybody! Last edited by kid lock; 08-29-2002 at 12:22 PM.

08-29-2002, 01:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The Gracie's do NOT TAP!!! I feel Royce vs Yoshida was WAY CONTROVERSIAL and should not be considered a win by Yoshida by any means IMHO!

08-29-2002, 05:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
"Real"PDShaolin Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York Posts: 35 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its going to be declared a no-contest. The gracies recieved calls from pride apologizing for the mistake. Royce jumped up and pushed the ref he was so pissed. his ONE TIME the Graices DID get robbed and have a REASON to complain. Alot of people are saying this was on purpose.

08-30-2002, 11:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
tom b Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 4 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, the Gracies do not tap. Helio's corner threw in the towekl after his arm was broken and Royce was choked out, according to news repoorts. Maybe the 100th anniversary will go better. Or maybe they will have the grace to fight the next time under Judo rules, that excludes ankle locks, knee locks,kicks and puncehs and includes throws and pins as techniques of value. At least the two games Judo winners, Kimura and Yoshida had the guts to playby BJJ rules On Yoshida it is much more a thrower then a matwork guy. Almost all of his matches at the Worlds and the Olympics were won by a single throw, uchimate., He retired last year shortky after C Honorato broke his arm during a throw in the quarter finals at the Sydney Olympics. It is very ironic that Honorato is from Brazil. It seems that Brazilian judokas can do more against Yoshida then BJJ'ers. Mastula of Poland would be a judoka who wins a hig percenatge of his matches on te mat.Havinfg sene hin in action I do not think there is any BBJ'er ( Sperry etc ) who could have come close to him Maybe there will be a video made on the Judo invasion of BJJ is next Last edited by tom b; 08-30-2002 at 01:16 PM.

08-31-2002, 06:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
kid lock Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 168 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I see you edited your reply, but whats up with your spelleing?

08-31-2002, 03:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
GrdStorm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 121 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	tom b - you got your shit mixed up. If Royce was choked out how could he get up and start screaming. If I choked you out you'd be damn sure you'd be lying on the mat. Don't you want mma events???? Remember Enson in Nog's triangle??? completely out buddy. Yoshida a thrower... he couldn't get off a single throw... nice. Yoshida didn't win so it doesn't prove crap and another thing. If Yoshida is the best there is in the Judo world at ne-waza then they got some serious trouble. People the likes of Mario Sperry, Royler Gracie, JJ Machado will **ing cream Yoshidas ass in a grappling match. Oh and if Yoshida were to mix it up in MMA, Nog would totally ** him up. As for Royce, he wasn't ready. That guy needs to weight train and roll with some new training partners. __________________ chesst = loser

08-31-2002, 03:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
kid lock Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 168 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	True.

08-31-2002, 04:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What exactly were the special rules of royce's fight? And did he really lose or not? Was he getting his ass handed to him before they stopped the fight? The gracie's don't tap, they just throw in the towel before they get totally whipped. __________________ MrPoopy

08-31-2002, 09:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
JaredExtreme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	From what I heard, and I could be wrong, was that Yoshida had mount and a gi choke on Royce. The way Royce was underneath him, the ref couldn't see Royce's face. Aparrently the ref thought Royce was choked out because he thought Royce had gone limp, so he stopped the fight. __________________ "I don't fight in the street, there's no mats out there." - JaredExtreme

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