The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Szczepankiewicz · 08-29-2002, 09:08 PM

No, seriously, read this article and you will see that Rorion Gracie and the whole Gracie Clan, AND Bruce Lee are nothing but a bunch of frauds who copied this guy!

http://www.countdante.com/countdante.html

This is THE original!!!

(I saw it on the internet, it MUST be true)

Roland · 08-29-2002, 09:54 PM

Counte Dante.

LOL.

Possibly the world's most dangerous hair dresser.

08-30-2002, 05:05 AM

"In 1973 Count Dante was requested to come to Hollywood, California by Counselor Films to do a screen test for the starring role in a Kung-Fu movie. The test proved futile due to the fact that the camera could not pick up his brutal, lightning - fast hand techniques. The motion picture studio's insurance coverage was canceled due to the injuries of stunt men and martial artists on the set because Count Dante did not pull his punches and kicks."

Why, those strikes were so fast it is almost as though they were never actually thrown at all....... Maybe the stunt men injured their sides during laughter?

Szczepankiewicz · 08-30-2002, 11:18 AM

Has anyone acutally heard of this guy?

Tim Mousel · 08-30-2002, 12:49 PM

Yea, I remember hearing about him a long time ago.

08-30-2002, 01:00 PM

I also remember adverts for his books in the British Martial Arts press about 20 years ago. It was under the ever growing "Learn these deadly secrets" banner that many of our fellow trainees seem so willing to believe.

Szczepankiewicz · 08-30-2002, 03:01 PM

20 years ago? I was in the 5th grade I think.....

Well, it's a good thing my buddy Sharp Phil is now a Black Belt in his art!

Roland · 08-30-2002, 03:58 PM

My memory might be off but wasn't Count Dante involved in the "Dojo Wars" back in the 70's?

NINJAJOE · 08-30-2002, 05:48 PM

Yes, I had heard of Count Dante and actually seen video of him in action on video - the verdict : he's about as talented as David Carradine or Ralph Macchio at the martial arts.

He used to be featured in magazines with the gimmicky nonsense of the 60's/70's 'learn to kill in 5 days with your bare hands' type courses.

Count Dante is a lousy martial artist, and his reputation says it all - he hasn't got one!!!!!

As his quoted amazing speed, he is actually rather slow and shows very poor form in his techniques, particuarly his terrible kicks.

Anyway, if he's still around; what's the legend sorry mistyped there that's LEG-END up to these days?????

In the 60's/70's many reading the mag's didn't have a clue what was the genuine article and what was not, so many con-men appeared on the scene most with little or no martial arts training, this guy was one of them - a 2 bit hustler con artist with very limited martial art skills who managed to fool a small amount of the general public that he was a master and 'deadly' mainly through his tacky adverts.

Count Dante if you're out there, I don't blame you or your students for keeping a very low profile (or rather invisible!) in the martial arts world these days, your students must be embarrasssed to say you're their teacher, so would I be! I hear your students wear paper bags over their heads in public to remain icognito!

As for Count Dante's pathetic books and courses on self defence - do the sensible thing if anyone has them or comes across them burn them (DANTE'S INFERNO?!?) or use them as toilet paper, your choice!

Mad Dog · 08-30-2002, 06:34 PM

All kidding aside, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he's dead. So sleep easy, folks!

NINJAJOE · 08-30-2002, 09:21 PM

True the whole bunch of Gracies and Machasdos are a joke. Emin Boztepe from Wing Tsun went round the Gracie HQ in Los Angeles and beat up Rickson Gracie and offered to take on anyone else there, after he wiped the floor with Rickson, everyone else declined. Incidentally, the fight did not go to the ground and Rickson was knocked out cold from Emin's power. This was filmed using a camcorder I have a copy, the quality is good enough to clearly see it is Rickson getting the beating if his life, and the even filmed the outside of their HQ and going in to make sure noone could disbelieve it.
This was after a long feud between the Gracie's and Boztepe, a war of words if you like. Now it is settled, after the beating the Gracie clan asked Emin not to tell anyone Rickson was defeated for fear of losing their reputation.

Anyway, it's on tape and beyond dispute.

Compared to WT, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu is an all round joke! Good for NHB competition obviously, but quite useless in the street or against a real fighter like Emin Boztepe.

Szczepankiewicz · 08-31-2002, 12:45 AM

Yup, if it's on tape AND posted on the internet, that settles it. It Most definitely is true. No doubt about it. I'm certainly convinced. Your word is good enough for me.... I don't even have to see the video.

GrdStorm · 08-31-2002, 03:58 AM

Holy CRAP!!! the guy that apparently runs his bullshit organization after this ass died is such an ASS CLOWN!!! look at his picture!!!! I bet this guy is really a computer tech to microsoft, LOL.

And do they really head the World Karate Federation??? ewww thats really sick.

08-31-2002, 05:19 AM

NINJAJOE -

Naw, more like Rorny Gracie or Dragonkick or Knifer....

TROLL ALERT!

NODAN · 08-31-2002, 04:47 PM

Count Dante was a real seventies deal. Although his book was thin and mostly pictrues of fishooks, gouges, and other not-so-niceties, it was material not (never) seen elsewhere.
The Chicago Dojo Wars of the early seventies were also real and did not end until one of Dant'e students, John C(something) was killed by a samurai sword during a raid on another dojo.
Dante was also a hairdresser/beautician and died naturally around 1975 of something exotic like a blood disease.

08-29-2002, 09:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rorion Gracie is a fraud!!! No, seriously, read this article and you will see that Rorion Gracie and the whole Gracie Clan, AND Bruce Lee are nothing but a bunch of frauds who copied this guy! http://www.countdante.com/countdante.html This is THE original!!! (I saw it on the internet, it MUST be true)

08-30-2002, 05:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
NINJAJOE Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	COUNT DANTE PANTE Yes, I had heard of Count Dante and actually seen video of him in action on video - the verdict : he's about as talented as David Carradine or Ralph Macchio at the martial arts. He used to be featured in magazines with the gimmicky nonsense of the 60's/70's 'learn to kill in 5 days with your bare hands' type courses. Count Dante is a lousy martial artist, and his reputation says it all - he hasn't got one!!!!! As his quoted amazing speed, he is actually rather slow and shows very poor form in his techniques, particuarly his terrible kicks. Anyway, if he's still around; what's the legend sorry mistyped there that's LEG-END up to these days????? In the 60's/70's many reading the mag's didn't have a clue what was the genuine article and what was not, so many con-men appeared on the scene most with little or no martial arts training, this guy was one of them - a 2 bit hustler con artist with very limited martial art skills who managed to fool a small amount of the general public that he was a master and 'deadly' mainly through his tacky adverts. Count Dante if you're out there, I don't blame you or your students for keeping a very low profile (or rather invisible!) in the martial arts world these days, your students must be embarrasssed to say you're their teacher, so would I be! I hear your students wear paper bags over their heads in public to remain icognito! As for Count Dante's pathetic books and courses on self defence - do the sensible thing if anyone has them or comes across them burn them (DANTE'S INFERNO?!?) or use them as toilet paper, your choice!

08-30-2002, 06:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mad Dog Novice Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Antioch, Ca Posts: 162 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	All kidding aside, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he's dead. So sleep easy, folks! __________________ He who contemplates the possibility of defeat is but a step away from achieving it....

08-30-2002, 09:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
NINJAJOE Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Emin Boztepe defeated Rickson Gracie True the whole bunch of Gracies and Machasdos are a joke. Emin Boztepe from Wing Tsun went round the Gracie HQ in Los Angeles and beat up Rickson Gracie and offered to take on anyone else there, after he wiped the floor with Rickson, everyone else declined. Incidentally, the fight did not go to the ground and Rickson was knocked out cold from Emin's power. This was filmed using a camcorder I have a copy, the quality is good enough to clearly see it is Rickson getting the beating if his life, and the even filmed the outside of their HQ and going in to make sure noone could disbelieve it. This was after a long feud between the Gracie's and Boztepe, a war of words if you like. Now it is settled, after the beating the Gracie clan asked Emin not to tell anyone Rickson was defeated for fear of losing their reputation. Anyway, it's on tape and beyond dispute. Compared to WT, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu is an all round joke! Good for NHB competition obviously, but quite useless in the street or against a real fighter like Emin Boztepe.

08-31-2002, 03:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
GrdStorm Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 121 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Holy CRAP!!! the guy that apparently runs his bullshit organization after this ass died is such an ASS CLOWN!!! look at his picture!!!! I bet this guy is really a computer tech to microsoft, LOL. And do they really head the World Karate Federation??? ewww thats really sick. __________________ chesst = loser

08-29-2002, 09:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Roland Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 101 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Counte Dante. LOL. Possibly the world's most dangerous hair dresser.

08-30-2002, 05:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	"In 1973 Count Dante was requested to come to Hollywood, California by Counselor Films to do a screen test for the starring role in a Kung-Fu movie. The test proved futile due to the fact that the camera could not pick up his brutal, lightning - fast hand techniques. The motion picture studio's insurance coverage was canceled due to the injuries of stunt men and martial artists on the set because Count Dante did not pull his punches and kicks." Why, those strikes were so fast it is almost as though they were never actually thrown at all....... Maybe the stunt men injured their sides during laughter?

08-30-2002, 11:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Has anyone acutally heard of this guy?

08-30-2002, 12:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tim Mousel Administrator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,712 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Yea, I remember hearing about him a long time ago.

08-30-2002, 01:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	I also remember adverts for his books in the British Martial Arts press about 20 years ago. It was under the ever growing "Learn these deadly secrets" banner that many of our fellow trainees seem so willing to believe.

08-30-2002, 03:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	20 years ago? I was in the 5th grade I think..... Well, it's a good thing my buddy Sharp Phil is now a Black Belt in his art!

08-30-2002, 03:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Roland Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 101 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	My memory might be off but wasn't Count Dante involved in the "Dojo Wars" back in the 70's?

08-31-2002, 12:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yup, if it's on tape AND posted on the internet, that settles it. It Most definitely is true. No doubt about it. I'm certainly convinced. Your word is good enough for me.... I don't even have to see the video.

08-31-2002, 05:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	NINJAJOE - Naw, more like Rorny Gracie or Dragonkick or Knifer.... TROLL ALERT!

08-31-2002, 04:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
NODAN Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Count Dante was a real seventies deal. Although his book was thin and mostly pictrues of fishooks, gouges, and other not-so-niceties, it was material not (never) seen elsewhere. The Chicago Dojo Wars of the early seventies were also real and did not end until one of Dant'e students, John C(something) was killed by a samurai sword during a raid on another dojo. Dante was also a hairdresser/beautician and died naturally around 1975 of something exotic like a blood disease.

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