The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Thai Bri** · 11-12-2005, 10:59 AM

As an aside everyone, Tameo has now turned tail. Suddenly Cheung is NOT any good.

Maybe he will become good again next week?

sapatiero · 11-12-2005, 06:07 PM

Does 'the WC' mean 'the toilet' in the US as well as here in the UK?

OmaPlata · 11-12-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sapatiero

Does 'the WC' mean 'the toilet' in the US as well as here in the UK?

i think it means wing chung or some style of martial art, but turd could be used too yes...brilliant, just brilliant

kiddbjj · 11-12-2005, 08:01 PM

i used to think william cheung was a bit of a money-hungry tosser but yesterday i saw an interview with him on a dvd (this was the first time i'd heard him speak or seen his mannerisms). he actually seemed like a very approachable, polite and well spoken man. now i feel kind of stupid for thinking poorly of him.

he definately is passionate about wing chun, practicing for over 55 years so my hat goes off to him. can he fight? i have no idea, but he seems like a respectable fellow that has probably mellowed a bit with age

TroJon · 03-19-2006, 02:57 AM

Just thought i'd like to say, the fact that no-one actually knows any of these people in person, leads me to believe that whichever propaganda you've read 1st = the one you believe...

it's all nonse...

Mike D. · 08-19-2006, 05:07 PM

Desiring fame can make loud mouthed asses out of anyone!
Both Cheung & Boztepe have learned this the hard way.

Well, at least I hope they have learned this by now.

Motion · 08-21-2006, 12:16 PM

Here's that Boztepe Chueng fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1nIAfpk

**Thai Bri** · 08-21-2006, 01:46 PM

See that clip! WHOOOOSHHH!!! The POWER of WING CHUN!

Wow!

See? Watch a clas full of compliant and cooperating training partners and get impressed by all the cool drills and Chis Sao nonsense.

Watch 'em go for real and it's like two sorry six year olds fighting over the last sweetie in the shop. God forbid what would have happened to either of these two Masters of Almightiness if they'd come up against a Judo green belt.

Pathetic.

Yet wait.....surely we can twist and turn all this to somehow back up claims that WC is a great fighting art? No doubt someone will try!

Motion · 08-21-2006, 06:11 PM

I think if Emin had entered the UFC or Battlecade Extreme Fighting back in the 90's he would have had a similar experiance as another Wing Chung stylist,Steve Falkner,who was bodyslammed and submitted by that Sambo stylist Igor Zignovia in Extreme Fighting.

WildWest. · 08-21-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Motion

Here's that Boztepe Chueng fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1nIAfpk

These guys are Masters??? This clip was utter shit. Where was the hunger? The aggression? The technique?

It was like watching two school girls have a wrestle.

Paco · 08-21-2006, 07:33 PM

HERE IT IS:

THE ULTRA-SECRET EMIN BOZTEPE WING TSUN TECHNIQUES:

1- Against WC Masters: sneak up on them at a seminar with your cameraman close by, jump on them from the back like an untrained high school kid would do and POUNCE AWAY! Watch years of chi cultivation disappear as your school earnings magically grow!

2- "Anti-Grappling": take the baddest grapplers on the block and challenge them to a match. Ridicule the rules of the match saying it's fake- sh*t, UFC rules are kid's play to a Ving Tsun Wing Tzun master like you! When they answer your call, keep eluding them: that will tire them out by the time you proclaim victory and make moolah for your school by saying "they never laid a finger on me."

(I probably saved you guys more than $100 in videos!)

P.S. Why has this thread gone on for so long? Cuz it's true!

**Thai Bri** · 08-21-2006, 09:39 PM

Paco.

I have no allegiance to either of these idiots, but Emin did not sneak up on anyone. At the time Cheungy was making all kinds of ridiculous claims that he was the only person taught "genuine" Wing Chun by Yip Man, and that everyone else had been taught a modified version.

He constantly issued challenges for people of any style to come and take him on.

Emin walked up to Cheung, showed him one of the magazine articles containing that challenge, and then offered to take him up on it there and then. Hardly sneaking up, is it?

They fought like idiots of course, with Boztepe clearly dominant, but no one hurt.

Afterwards Cheung blamed his slippers for being too slippery. At least hge shut up his stupid challenges.

It was only as time went on that more and morte excuses began to appear, many of them contradictory. They include:--

Cheung let Emin win on purpose, as there was an armed gang out of camera shot who may have hurt his followers had he not let him win.

Cheung actually "won", and the video clip has been editerd in a way that misleads people.

Cheung was jumped from behind.....

Etc.

Like I say, I have no allegiance to either of these, but I was following these events closely when they happened. I was into Wing Chun at the time and remember the whole episode well.

SPB · 12-08-2006, 03:20 PM

Yes that fight 26 years ago wasn’t that spectacular, but it’s sad that you base your understanding of Wing Chun on this debacle. Having trained in kickboxing for 18 years I decided to start training in Wing Chun, but I waited for a few years until I understood the system to make a judgement, unlike some.

Just to clarify a couple of things:

1. Wing Chun is not a sport, it’s a pure fighting art.
2. Real fights have very little finesse or “technique” they are nasty, scrappy and tend to end very quickly.

Please don’t look at all the rubbish examples on the Internet, its embarrassing that these people call their style wing chun. This is not what good wing chun is like, and I cringe and laugh at them along with you. Many of the earlier students didn’t finish their training and then went on to teach across the world, this is why so much crap, useless wing chun is out there. A good example is Bruce Lee, who only trained for two and bit years before calling himself “master”

But remember only the ignorant mock. Train hard.

SPB · 12-08-2006, 03:20 PM

Yes that fight 26 years ago wasn’t that spectacular, but it’s sad that you base your understanding of Wing Chun on this debacle. Having trained in kickboxing for 18 years I decided to start training in Wing Chun, but I waited for a few years until I understood the system to make a judgement, unlike some.

Just to clarify a couple of things:

1. Wing Chun is not a sport, it’s a pure fighting art.
2. Real fights have very little finesse or “technique” they are nasty, scrappy and tend to end very quickly.

Please don’t look at all the rubbish examples on the Internet, its embarrassing that these people call their style wing chun. This is not what good wing chun is like, and I cringe and laugh at them along with you. Many of the earlier students didn’t finish their training and then went on to teach across the world, this is why so much crap, useless wing chun is out there. A good example is Bruce Lee, who only trained for two and bit years before calling himself “master”

But remember only the ignorant mock. Train hard.

**Thai Bri** · 12-09-2006, 11:46 AM

That's easy for you to say.

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11-12-2005, 10:59 AM	#61 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	As an aside everyone, Tameo has now turned tail. Suddenly Cheung is NOT any good. Maybe he will become good again next week?

11-12-2005, 06:07 PM	#62 (permalink)
sapatiero Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 255 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Does 'the WC' mean 'the toilet' in the US as well as here in the UK?

11-12-2005, 08:01 PM	#64 (permalink)
kiddbjj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i used to think william cheung was a bit of a money-hungry tosser but yesterday i saw an interview with him on a dvd (this was the first time i'd heard him speak or seen his mannerisms). he actually seemed like a very approachable, polite and well spoken man. now i feel kind of stupid for thinking poorly of him. he definately is passionate about wing chun, practicing for over 55 years so my hat goes off to him. can he fight? i have no idea, but he seems like a respectable fellow that has probably mellowed a bit with age

03-19-2006, 02:57 AM	#65 (permalink)
TroJon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just thought i'd like to say, the fact that no-one actually knows any of these people in person, leads me to believe that whichever propaganda you've read 1st = the one you believe... it's all nonse...

08-19-2006, 05:07 PM	#66 (permalink)
Mike D. Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Desiring fame can make loud mouthed asses out of anyone! Both Cheung & Boztepe have learned this the hard way. Well, at least I hope they have learned this by now.

08-21-2006, 12:16 PM	#67 (permalink)
Motion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Carrollton Georgia Posts: 105 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's that Boztepe Chueng fight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1nIAfpk

08-21-2006, 01:46 PM	#68 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	See that clip! WHOOOOSHHH!!! The POWER of WING CHUN! Wow! See? Watch a clas full of compliant and cooperating training partners and get impressed by all the cool drills and Chis Sao nonsense. Watch 'em go for real and it's like two sorry six year olds fighting over the last sweetie in the shop. God forbid what would have happened to either of these two Masters of Almightiness if they'd come up against a Judo green belt. Pathetic. Yet wait.....surely we can twist and turn all this to somehow back up claims that WC is a great fighting art? No doubt someone will try!

08-21-2006, 06:11 PM	#69 (permalink)
Motion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Carrollton Georgia Posts: 105 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think if Emin had entered the UFC or Battlecade Extreme Fighting back in the 90's he would have had a similar experiance as another Wing Chung stylist,Steve Falkner,who was bodyslammed and submitted by that Sambo stylist Igor Zignovia in Extreme Fighting.

08-21-2006, 07:33 PM	#71 (permalink)
Paco Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 171 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	HERE IT IS: THE ULTRA-SECRET EMIN BOZTEPE WING TSUN TECHNIQUES: 1- Against WC Masters: sneak up on them at a seminar with your cameraman close by, jump on them from the back like an untrained high school kid would do and POUNCE AWAY! Watch years of chi cultivation disappear as your school earnings magically grow! 2- "Anti-Grappling": take the baddest grapplers on the block and challenge them to a match. Ridicule the rules of the match saying it's fake- sh*t, UFC rules are kid's play to a Ving Tsun Wing Tzun master like you! When they answer your call, keep eluding them: that will tire them out by the time you proclaim victory and make moolah for your school by saying "they never laid a finger on me." (I probably saved you guys more than $100 in videos!) P.S. Why has this thread gone on for so long? Cuz it's true!

08-21-2006, 09:39 PM	#72 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Paco. I have no allegiance to either of these idiots, but Emin did not sneak up on anyone. At the time Cheungy was making all kinds of ridiculous claims that he was the only person taught "genuine" Wing Chun by Yip Man, and that everyone else had been taught a modified version. He constantly issued challenges for people of any style to come and take him on. Emin walked up to Cheung, showed him one of the magazine articles containing that challenge, and then offered to take him up on it there and then. Hardly sneaking up, is it? They fought like idiots of course, with Boztepe clearly dominant, but no one hurt. Afterwards Cheung blamed his slippers for being too slippery. At least hge shut up his stupid challenges. It was only as time went on that more and morte excuses began to appear, many of them contradictory. They include:-- Cheung let Emin win on purpose, as there was an armed gang out of camera shot who may have hurt his followers had he not let him win. Cheung actually "won", and the video clip has been editerd in a way that misleads people. Cheung was jumped from behind..... Etc. Like I say, I have no allegiance to either of these, but I was following these events closely when they happened. I was into Wing Chun at the time and remember the whole episode well.

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12-08-2006, 03:20 PM	#73 (permalink)
SPB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes that fight 26 years ago wasn’t that spectacular, but it’s sad that you base your understanding of Wing Chun on this debacle. Having trained in kickboxing for 18 years I decided to start training in Wing Chun, but I waited for a few years until I understood the system to make a judgement, unlike some. Just to clarify a couple of things: 1. Wing Chun is not a sport, it’s a pure fighting art. 2. Real fights have very little finesse or “technique” they are nasty, scrappy and tend to end very quickly. Please don’t look at all the rubbish examples on the Internet, its embarrassing that these people call their style wing chun. This is not what good wing chun is like, and I cringe and laugh at them along with you. Many of the earlier students didn’t finish their training and then went on to teach across the world, this is why so much crap, useless wing chun is out there. A good example is Bruce Lee, who only trained for two and bit years before calling himself “master” But remember only the ignorant mock. Train hard.

12-08-2006, 03:20 PM	#74 (permalink)
SPB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes that fight 26 years ago wasn’t that spectacular, but it’s sad that you base your understanding of Wing Chun on this debacle. Having trained in kickboxing for 18 years I decided to start training in Wing Chun, but I waited for a few years until I understood the system to make a judgement, unlike some. Just to clarify a couple of things: 1. Wing Chun is not a sport, it’s a pure fighting art. 2. Real fights have very little finesse or “technique” they are nasty, scrappy and tend to end very quickly. Please don’t look at all the rubbish examples on the Internet, its embarrassing that these people call their style wing chun. This is not what good wing chun is like, and I cringe and laugh at them along with you. Many of the earlier students didn’t finish their training and then went on to teach across the world, this is why so much crap, useless wing chun is out there. A good example is Bruce Lee, who only trained for two and bit years before calling himself “master” But remember only the ignorant mock. Train hard.

12-09-2006, 11:46 AM	#75 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	That's easy for you to say.