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Old 09-23-2002, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can anyone direct me to a websites where these so called "DIRTY TRICKS" ?

and i don't mean b.itches and hoes..
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i mean eye gouging, throw chops or attacks.. just quick s.hit i can add to my arsonal.. for my defense of course..

the "proper way" to attack someones eyes .. cause i know some but it's always cool to get more info then i already have..

anything dirty is cool, and some of you will try to send your mom's to me.. not that dirty ..lol

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help with this please..

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Old 09-23-2002, 07:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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honestly i think something is wrong with my brain.. too many hits to the head..

i try to write something and it never comes out like i want it when i type....

i'm going to get my head checked.. the post title isn't what i what wanted to say.. that or i think faster then my hands can type. i can type super fast..

i'm retarded!
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Old 09-25-2002, 10:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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http://pub104.ezboard.com/bclosecombat82274

Try this.
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Old 09-25-2002, 02:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i'm actually looking for more of pics or diagrams of how a chop is and where to attack the body..


for example like a chop and a pic of a throat. and where to attack..
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Old 09-26-2002, 06:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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In the Close Quarter Combatives they have a concept called "generic targeting". This means that they do not target a particular weak spot, rather the general area where the weak spots are.

They rarely hit to the body (which is reasonably well protected with muscle, and sometimes heavy clothing), usually attacking the area from the throat to the eye level, and from the groin to the insteps.

Their theory is like this. Consider the throat up. Weak spots include :-

Windpipe
Carotid artery
Upper vertebrae
Chin and Jaw line
Philtrum
Nose
Between the eyes
Mastoid
Temples
Eyes.

They train open hand blows, and then rain numerous blows to this general area. They really emphasise a vicious "hack hack hack" effort, not stopping until the opponent is out for the count. If they tried to aim each blow to a particular target, the effort of aiming would slow them down. So they hack away at the general area, knowing that a high percentage of these blows will reach a vulnerable target anyway.

This leads to three different effects. The trauma of hitting the weak point itself. The trauma to the brain, having been rocked by the head blow, and the associated trauma to the spine of having the head and neck pummelled.

The vulnerable areas in the groin and legs are not so densely packed, but a 3-4 staccato knees to the groin area, and a kick to the shins, knees and instep will hurt, bad. Then he gets the neck/head treatment again etc. etc.

The mechanics of the "chop" (they call it the Ax Hand) is difficult to describe in writing. Log into the website and see what you can pick up. The main man is called Carl Cestari, and he has a video available from the site. That really helps, as they have a different system of footwork, and a method of injecting power into strikes that I had never seen before.

I have experience in Karate, Wing Chun, Jiu Jitsu and Ground Grappling. But, in my view, I have never seen anything as impressive as the Close Quarter Combatives for real fighting.
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Thumbs up Those are some good areas but..........

You left out the center line anywhere from the tip of your head to the nut sack is a good striking target.

Also the collarbone it takes only 8lbs of pressure to break one.Most gun triggers require more than 8lbs of pulling power from your finger to fire.

There are many areas on the body that don't require pinpoint strikes to do damage.

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Would a broken collar bone really stop someone?? One of my cousins broke her collar bone several times when she was younger. A couple times she didn't even know it was broke until she went to the doctor.
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you guys are cool.. hehehe... nice tips..
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Thumbs up In most cases a broken collarbone will stop you in your tracks.

All i can say is she must have a high threshold of pain or she broke it so much that she had severe nerve damage.

In most cases of a broken collarbone the person could not use that arm on that side.Infact put your hand on your collarbone and move the arm on the same side.You should feel a little movement everytime your arm moves.I've never heard of anyone having their collarbone broken and doing anything much less not knowing it was broken.

But like i said it could be one of the two reasons i stated above.There are some people known to have a very high threshold of pain.Meaning they could take pain that would drop most people without even flinching.

But.........these are very rare people it's not something you learn they are born this way.

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I'll second BriThai on the Close Combat stuff. I also freaquent the Close Combat Forums.

To those that want more details on this type of fighting go here ->Combatives Information .

Download and read "Get Tough" and "Kill or Get Killed" these two PDF books should give you pretty much everything you need to know about the down and dirty methods of "Gutter Fighting".

Also check out this site for some real good information. www.gutterfighting.org .

Just remember there are no secrets! There's not any mystical Ninja crap here.

This is basically the Pre-WWII Judo/Jiu-Jitsu stuff before they took all the lethal stuff out of it.

You'll even see some basic chokes and other stuff you'll recognize.

The biggest difference this type Combatives has with other martial arts is that it's all offense. There's no defensive techiques, everything is geared for attacking.

The pre-emptive strike is a primary tactic. Why wait to get attacked? As soon as the enemy shows any sign of preparing to attack you destroy them with an overwhelming, forward driving attack until he is rendered harmless, unconcious or dead. It's not pretty, fancy or fair but it works if you work it!

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i'm going to read this artical.. very interesting this gutter fighting s.hit.. thanks for all the help...
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Check out my articles page. Look for the article on dirty tricks.

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tony send me the link..
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It is on this page

http://www.members.shaw.ca/tmanifold/articles.htm

I am still collecting and developing "tricks" but there are a few good ones here.

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Thumbs up Real nice info on the dirty tactics

Tony,
Very goog tricks all of them work well.

Just a bit of caution to everyone.

Just be careful with the throat.

A strike hard enough to the throat can get you a murder charge.It's an area we work on alot ,but are told not to really attack.Because it is very easy to kill someone with a strike to the throat even though you just planned to hurt them or stop them in their tracks.

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