Thankyou ATF from the children of the world

[Shimora]

Royceg420 , regarding the parents. I agree that the parents need to take more responsiblity with their guns. For a start all guns should be locked in a safe at home and not put up on the top shelf of the kitchen cupboard. Its a lot harder to crack a safe than it is to move a chair over to the cupboard. Until parents can prove thay can be more responsible with guns nobody should have them. What the **** kind of a hobby is guns anyway? "Yeah, I likes to shoot things 'coz its lotsa fun" "I loves to kill things, its ma' hobby". Maybe their hobby should be responsible parenting.

Masala, camon man the FBI dont do shit like that. This is the government we are talking about. Those Wacko's at Waco were a threat to society and they were dealt with accordingly. Let this be a lesson to any other freaks that dont want to pay taxes. Its not the ATF's fault that kids got shot. Its the parents of the kids fault for keeping their kids in a place like Koresh's cult. Koresh was a fruit cake like Jim Jones or Charles Manson. I praise the brave men and women of the ATF and the FBI for dealing with it in the manner they did.

[Masala]

Shimora,
I resemble that!

I think all law enforcement and the people who support them are fascist.

They should all be shot.


By the way, I stopped eating meat so now I am a veterinarian.


What do you think about that?

[Shimora]

Tree Hugger

[royceg420]

Shimora,

Your lucky I can control my primitive urges or I'd show you what kind of hobbie shooting is... I guess I'll just have to be happy jamming one up your ass.

[Shimora]

Royce420g
See what I mean. Threatening me with violence. You are a perfect example of someone who cant control his emotions. You probably will go postal one day with that big ol' gun 'o' yours.
And they let you have a gun?

[royceg420]

Didn't you read what I said? "your lucky I can control my primitive urges". I was threatening you with violence but I would only give just enough to make you realize what an pansy you were. I would never kill a human being(unless I went to war). Just beat them into submission...

[Edited by royceg420 on 11-02-2000 at 10:10 PM]

[PunchDrunk]

LMAO @ "Ive heard that National Guard bases are currently being converted to Detention Camps to detain the law breakers that refuse to hand in their guns. Many National Guard bases have recently had reels of barbed wire placed on the inside fences. Also machine gun tripods have been installed in the observation towers."

That's classic.

[PunchDrunk]

Why did the ATF raid the Koresh compound? Because Koresh failed to pay taxes on the OTHERWISE LEGAL weapons he owned.

[Jimmy23]

all you guys should read the issue of Skeptic magazine that deals withthe Rules of eEngagement film.First,they let a guy try to debunk the film then they let the producer of the film respond ,very informative.
Im new to this list but this Shimora fellow looks like one of the most vigorous trolls that I have ever encountered.I shall watch and learn from the master!

Masala, I thought you were one of the level-headed ones.

No, I haven't seen the video (obviously), but I stated that it sounds like B.S. I would think a commercially-accessible video detailing government atrocities against civilians would have gotten a little more attention in the mainstream media. I do pay attention to these things, you know. I just don't have time to read volumes of literature about far-fetched schemes to undermine democracy.

I'm sorry, but some of you guys make government intrigue sound like a Robert Ludlum novel. In my experience, the truth is much more boring.

In a way that's more dangerous. Boring problems receive less attention than alleged government hit-squads.

[Jimmy23]

Ronin ,you seem like a level headed fellow.Look up Noam Chomsky(hes an MIT economics professor) and read a few of his books ,esp the ones dealing with information flow in the media.I am a skeptical conspiracy theorist,I dont believe in any one ,world wide conspiracy.To me,its more likely that power groups with common interests work together when it suits their purposes,and deal with conflicts in such a way that it doesnt threaten the whole arrangement.
My real life example of this happening was the five mafia families in New York ,before the feds broke em down in the 80s.While competing against each other,and at times occaisonally warring ,they also had rules that guarenteed that the mafia system itself wasnt threatened and that the killings were kept low so as not to inflame public opinion,hence bringing down the law on them.Families would actually consult with their rivals when decidng on matters of seccession,so as to have leadership that worked within the system.This worked great(for the mob) until an outside force(the FBI) came in and dismantled it.

[duchman]

shimora is a real ninchido master! so dont f*ck whit him