So How Does It Usually Go Down? Forum Poll...

[Tony10]

ANYWAY....

No arguments Colony Crusher. So as you've most often seen it you would go with the shoving-that-turns-into-blows-and/or-grappling scenario? What Mark MacYoung calls "escalato"?

What do you have to say Manco? When you're done eyeballing that naked asian guy...

Hawk?

[Ryu (non-working password]

HE'S NOT NAKED!!!!

[Hawk]

Tony 10,
Most of the fights I've seen or been in are hand to hand.
I agree with the Gracies' in that 90% of the fights I've seen hit the ground at one time or another. Your three scenarios pretty much go along with what I've seen. When bouncing one thing I used to see that I took advantage of was that most guys would get in each others face,YAYA at each other, and then both would step back. When I had to chunk one of these idiots, I'd let him YAYA and step forward as he stepped back and drop him like a bad habit. You can't believe the "supposedly" bad street fighters I took out this way.
Hawk

[rockinronnie]

Tony10 - I pretty much agree with what you stated - the fight starts with either a shove (or shoves), progresses to throwing punches / kicks, and almost always ends on the ground / floor.

And then it's time to "CUT LOOSE THE CHRISTMAS HARDWARE" !!

Rather than throwing the right "bomb" as a first punch, I prefer using my jab. I like to let my foe feel the "sting" at first, and everything else flows off of it. The jab "sets up" everything else - usually the right or a left hook, or maybe a kick to the thigh or shin.

Once it's on the ground (in my case), I'd let my experience in wrestling and BJJ work it's magic. Hey, this is fun! I'd better stop before I get carried away.

Ronnie.

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A straight arm's a broken arm - Master JPF

[PassiveGuy]

For me, it seems that if I was in a street fight and the guy tackled me i could just knee him in the head. But I guess that wouldn't always work so well. And if your a grappler you could easily put him in an arm bar or something. BTW what do yall think the best way to deal with that big right hook would be?

Later,

[Ryu (non-working password]

PassiveGuy,
IF the tackle (or double leg) is good there is no way to knee the guy in the head. MANY people insisted the same thing to me when they knew I had some grappling experience, and one of them supposedly studied Muay Thai for a long time and had 5 fights, etc. When those guys lifted their knee to "knee" me in the head...it was just giving me their leg to help my double leg, and over they went.
I'm not saying it's impossible. Damn, look what happened to poor Kerr. But it's harder than it seems

For the right hook, the best thing to do is hit first LOL.
Actually you can clinch right in if you know it's coming. If he sucker punches you, you take it. Having a strong chin comes in handy then.

Take care,
Ryu

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

When it came to weapons, I usually saw it being flashed mostly for show. Alot of people I know, wont really use a weapon when they carry. Its mostly for the intimadation factor. If a person sees a weapon, he usually backs down, which cools down everyone. Pepper spray and mace were the fav. weapons in grade 7 and 8 (good ol' days!) One squirt ended the fight and no one got hurt!
With the fights, it ended up as race vs race (it was gay and stupid in my opinion) But most fights were mostly grab clothes and wrestle to the ground. The circle made around the two fighters were one half race A and the other half race b. I sorta thought that was hella funny!
Other styles of fighting were throwing wild haymakers left and right while at the same time lifting the right and left leg into the guy.

Very gay

Homosexuality seems to be a common topic on this board.

Does long-term grappling build up feelings of homo-eroticism which eventually "explode" into conscious reality?

I will have to weigh my decision to study BJJ carefully. I wouldn't want to lose my reputation as a "ladies' man".

[Ryu (non-working password]

oooh hoo hoo, Pit Dog, you are so masculine, I .....

?? What?
what are you talking about Ronin? Homosexuality has no place on this board! What's wrong with you?

Ryu

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

I think Homophobia is sweeping the mean streets of the U.S. and Canada!! Last summer me and 3 other guys convinced this one really really naive guy to be gay. He actually did and performed his first blowjob on some guy he met off the streets in TO. I really felt bad for manipulating him like that.

But for some morbid reason, Im finding this funny now!

[Ryu (non-working password]

eewwww, I'm drinkin tea, here!

Uh...I don't think you "talked him into that"....
that sounds like he was gay to me.
There's no way you can manipulate a straight guy to do that. Sorry.

[Evilution]

I agree with the majority of the posts so far. I've seen plenty of fights go down just like the ones that have been described. But around here I've also seen quite a few fights that went down pretty much like boxing matchs. Sometimes they went to the ground but it was never because of a clinch or takedown, it was because the guy eating the most punches just fell or stumbled. I've seen fights where the crowd gathered to watch the fight actually enforced rules, like no weapons or whatever, just to keep things from going too far. People around here often think that there is such a thing as a fair fight.

[Joe Manco]

Helio Gracie was 10x the man Kimura was.

It's not his fault he was the size and stature of a woman, so therefore he got beaten like one in that fight.

Yours truly,

Joe

[Ryu (non-working password]

LMAO! Is that all you can say?? I was expecting a bigger troll then that! I got off easy

I dance to you!