Starting something new .. well it's not new ... but to me it's new..

[crazyjoe380]

I'll break down my program to you guys and drop an opinion weather you think it's cool, or not or what you think





i'm going to take creatine when i work out with weights



No loading, no maintenance, instant absorption and completely stable - this is your best bet. Available in a number of flavors.

Ingredients:


2500 mgs of Pure Creatine Monohydrate - because it is more directly absorbed than creatine powder - this has the same effect as 5000 mgs of creatine powder.
Vitamin B12 to support nerve and muscle metabolism
Ginseng for energy and protection from stress and fatigue.
Royal Jelly for energy, mental alertness and to combat stress and fatigue.
Honey acts as a transporter to help intake of creatine into the muscles.
Glycerine as a source of energy for the body.


and take this type of creatine when i work out in muay thai..









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Guarana Extract restores energy and improves athletic performance, stamina and endurance. It contains caffeine - a natural stimulant found in tea and coffee. However, its energizing effect can last for hours, as it contains compounds which slow down the assimilation of the caffeine by the body.

L-Arginine a semi amino acid used by the body to produce creatine. It enhances the immune system and is helpful in cases of male sterility.

L-Glutamine for muscle growth and recovery. Check out our FAQ on Glutamine to learn more about this amino acid.

L-Taurine to help control hyperactivity and normalizes irregular heart beats. It aids in preventing circulatory and heart disorders, hypoglycemia, water retention and hypertension.

L-Carnitine to promote weight loss and increase stamina. Helps to burn fat for fuel and increases the maximum use of oxygen. This allows runners to exercise longer without fatigue.

Green Tree Extract a powerful antioxidant. It neutralizes harmful fats and oils and lowers cholesterol and blood pressure. It also inhibits bacteria and viruses and improves digestion.

Vitamin B-1 which is essential for for energy metabolism. It converts starches and sugars from food into energy.
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D-Ribose enhances muscular energetic effects of creatine and helps replace energy (ATP stores) efficiently and quickly.
Calcium Pyruvate increases energy and stamina by helping release ATP in the body. Also burns fat and promotes weight loss.

Glycerine is a source of energy using as a starting material in making more complex molecules.

Honey is the highest glycemic source. Studies have shown that taking a high glycemic source increases creatine uptake into the muscles cells.


Other ingredients: sorbitol, distilled water and natural flavoring.
Comes in large 5 ounce bottle - 30 servings per bottle





what you guys think????

[JaredExtreme]

Damn, you must have tons of $$$. The only supplements I have taken are protein and a mass gainer, I stay away from the the complicated expensive stuff for a couple of reasons.

1. I asked my doctor what he thought about various stuff like creatine etc and he said a lot of the supplements haven't been tested for long-term effects, so it can be risky.

2.One of my co-workers of the gym told me about when he was taking creatine. He said the creatine DID work, but instead of his muscles feeling hard, they felt soft due to the water intake that creatine caused in the muscle tissue. Also, when he stopped taking the creatine, much of the extra muscle he put on drained away.

So that's just my point of view. I'm interested in how your creatine regiment turns out.

[mushinmaster]

Joe, I did a report on that liquid creatine stuff - supposed to be the only stable liquid form, supposed to save your kidneys. I forgot what the source was, but it was credible, and said the something to the effect that the level of creatine in the crap is next to nothing. FDA does not regulate supplements, that means they can put on the label whatever the hell they want, so be carefull and watch your $$.

[Biker]

What Mushinmaster said. Watch what you buy and do not just go by what the producer states. It may be more expensive, but stick with big name products. Weider, Twin-lab, Met-RX, etc. The no-names do not have a reputation to maintain. Since they aren't regulated, they could just put sugar water in a bottle and sell it as the "magic bullet."

[crazyjoe380]

if i use this product lets say a year and stop.. just use like vitamins and stuff.. amino acids..


cause really i have a busy lifestyle..
i hustle all the time.. but i make time to train at night.. i'm doing few things at once and sometimes i'm too damn tired..

i've been slippin..

i been rehabiltating myself cause of past injurys.. nothing sport related.. all business..

and it's hectic.. i need something.. i need help!! this might work but i'll watch the doses i take...

thanks..

any more comments on this? cause i'm gonna use it moderatly..

[Edge]

If your gonna use suppliments, research what your going to use thoroughly. I personaly don't use suppliments.
n-e way that's my dos centavos ---Edge---

[shredder]

Since you've already decided to buy creatine, I say that's your prerogative if it doesn't dent your pocketbook too badly. Although liquid usually isn't a very economical way to do supplements.

Also, if you eat a lot of red meat, then you don't need to go crazy with it. Just do your homework before you buy, read up on the recommended usage, and don't forgot to record your progress with it.

This prompted me to write a few things about nutrition and supplements which you can check out in the fitness forum

[holte2]

hey joe..my moms a doctor and my step-dads a pharmacist and they both say cretine is very beneficial, just dont take more than the product says...i.e if it says 1 cup a day then taking more is not going to do any good....careful what cretine you buy because it does make you retain some water....do you do your weight training and do your MT on the same day? if so then you do not need creatine both times, during your MT workout (or while lifting...pick one) drink as much gatorade as possible and eat something with lots of carbs afterwards (or maybe protein i forget) anyway below is a breakdown of my schedule...no MT class yet since i dont start til november 20th...i dont know if you will want this or not or if its benefital for martial artist but I compete in a lot of triathalons so it works for me....oh i also have time to do all this because i quit my job to attend grad school. anyway posted it because i have been doing for years and it has worked great for my bad ass!

Mon..am upper body free weights..strength traing for about 1.5 hours ..ask if you want details

Mon..pm bike 40 miles usually staying between 25-30 most of the way

tuesday..am lower body free weights
tues pm run 10 miles

wed sames as mon

thursday same as tuesday

friday same as mon

off sat/sun

supplements: multivitamin, cretin, protein shake,--all daily

PS...check out www.jesus.com its pretty funny

[holte2]

i know that l-glutimine is not going to do anything for you...i will look into the other chemicals in their but 9 times out of ten the more stuff they have in their drink and the more they say it does the less effective it acually is...i can go find what i read that said l-glutamine is a waste of time if your that intersted...

[holte2]

if anyone wants info on a supplement let me know and i will tell you waht i know, i have been around them for over a decade and my dad was a semi pro bodybuilder as well as my brother so i can give you an unbiased opinion from what i know works and doesnt

got 1500 dollars? then you could have bought this (eminems trash)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=910834218

[crazyjoe380]

thanks to all...


what i do is


mon : muay thai

tues: weights

wen: muay thai


thur: weights

friday: party

sat muay thai

sun: weights




so i could break down the suppliments ...cool

i'm excited on trying it.. i havent even opened the bottles yet

[Szczepankiewicz]

Joe,

What kind of diet are you following?

[crazyjoe380]

i dont eat breakfast all the time..


i eat turkey sandwiches for lunch and some orange juice..


depending on how i feel..

i might eat at home .. the wait and train..

or


go train.. then eat..


what am i doing wrong? is there a better way?

[holte2]

joe, it sounds like you dont eat near the amount of calories and protein that your body needs....are you treng to lose, gain, or maintain the weight you have.....also how old are you....let me know and i can give you a more detailed answer on a proper diet

[crazyjoe380]

i'm 26 years old and america is full of junk food..

i work 9 hours a day.. come home and straght to train..

then come home eat and sleep..

same process.. diffrent training

help me out.. what do i eat or what?

i'm used to the convenice of american lifestyle lol