This is the truth about self defense..

crazyjoe380 · 10-28-2002, 08:26 PM

There is a saying..

some who dont know what is happening ..

some who wonder what is happening ..

and people from the streets that make things happen..

I saw a demonstration.. that went real bad

this guy name Armon Singleton was doing a demonstration on self defense and he was teaching stuff about how the body works, weak points, and stuff..

i wondered how much fighting experiance this guy had..

Just one mili second that i had the thought about this. some mexican dud with a tang top is beating the shit out of this so called master of self defense..

it was funny but it was so embarresing.. everyone was in that .. breaking it up.. and armon sinletons camp was trying to break it up. He was bleeding.. and the dude that attacked was kidda ripped.. tatooed up..

then i said.. this guy is a joke .. poor guy.. lol ..

then i remember everything we are talking about...

about this martial arts and that... and it's not what u know it's just whos on they toes..

I've been in gangs.. and i can tell u there is a THOUSANDS OF "TANK ABBOTTS" walking around Los Angeles.. So how is your style gonna deal with them if you aint open minded and stay traditional???

Jesus.. i still feel sorry for him... lol

Suzuki_Fanboy · 10-28-2002, 08:36 PM

whoa, that would be the ultimate embarassment...

and you're out of gangs right now, aren't you? if not, you should leave anyways...nothing but trouble

robertlee · 10-28-2002, 10:53 PM

you are probably right. and there is alot of fighters out there who can do the job with the no rules fight thats the part that is forgotten just like the boxer trains to fight the boxer A m/a person should not forget the streets or he will be surprised possilble one day

crazyjoe380 · 10-28-2002, 10:56 PM

i was telling my muay thai teacher and he freakin laughed his ass off.. lol..

Brokenmace · 10-28-2002, 11:06 PM

I've known folks in gangs before. They were early reps of the first chapters in my region. This was back in maybe '93 or '94. They were out of it before I knew them. Truth is, nobody bothers with h2h, except for beat ins. Not out here, anyway.

It's more like drive by the guys house real slow and gat it. Or sneak up behind the guy and knife him (more likely just shoot him, though). They don't give you a chance, because you might have the gun, or be the Tank Abbott.

Honestly, I doubt many folks expect to survive a gang encounter -- a real gang encounter. We train to beat random drunks, bar brawlers, muggers, rapists, and to do what we have to when nothing else works. Going up against five thug mofos with Tek 9s isn't going to work. Just accept it. Run. You'll probably still die though. Yes, even you marathon men. LOL

I stay away from bad parts of town, and I don't carry a lot of cash. All my cards have my face on them. I carry a knife, a telescopic baton, and a kubaton at all times. If I see five guys who look like they want trouble, I'll do my best to not be noticed.

NuffSpeed · 10-28-2002, 11:38 PM

Thats N.W.A or Eazy E aint it?

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 10:54 AM

that's doctor dre...

but he got that from some guy.. he just changed it to "streets" cause that's what he is talking about and that is what i'm talking about..

robertlee · 10-29-2002, 02:12 PM

To have to fend off more then one attacker is never that easy. But the subject was a single sudden attack sure he may have been caught off guard.. That may have been a possible to way in, I have said several times sometimes its best to walk and do what you must This was a do what you must time thats what is being said People forget the wild looping haymaker, thesudden flurry of punches that a street fighter employes. Why because you get used to the way you train. and the type of people you train with they are not out to beat you down. Where the real deal is. Add that idea to the training . remember what you have seen have done and at least periododicly bring it up in the training sessions to knock a little rust off . No one can be sure they are ready for the fight all they can do is keep there wits and let the course develop the actions A street fighter is impulsive he gets done to business fast . So you need to train for quick manouvers that will help defend this action nothing is best but if you trained towards this you can respond better I was told in a martail art class who do you think is your worst oppent is several poeple said different things . The instructor then said the new student was . Why because he is untrained in his skills so you do not know what he is going to do when he attacks. Thats the street fighter I never forgot what was said because he was right

Ryu (JKD?) · 10-29-2002, 03:38 PM

Self-Defense is all about environmental awareness, de-escalation, pre-emptive strikes, adrenaline dump, and the shock of surprise attacks and weapons.

Anyone teaching "self-defense" has to understand that, and also have experience under his belt. That means you're a fighter, not a technical "martial artist."

Hey, Joe, if the mexican guy attacked me and I shot him in the face would you still consider me a "self-defense" guy?

Ryu

P.s. I've never heard of this guy. Who is he and what does he teach?

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 04:36 PM

i'd consider you a gangsta.. ^^^^^ lol

he made his own style from what he learned in kempo karate, and some other shit.. i couldn't find him on the internet search.. he must be a dud.. so is this style of fighting.. lol

that mexican fool was down as hell but he didn't fight that well.. i would have f.ucked him up.. but .. that's the way the fist bounces..

of that dudes face...lol

Ice Phoenix · 10-29-2002, 07:00 PM

LMFAO, that's some funny shit!

Should be done more often! It would expose all the phoney "self-defense experts" around who make money off their bullshit.

crazyjoe380 · 10-31-2002, 01:06 PM

i still feel sorry for him..

that's kinda f.ucked up.. i'm too nice to expose his ass.. i'm glad he did..

hahaha who ever he was..

orale homes! gracias..

10-28-2002, 08:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is the truth about self defense.. There is a saying.. some who dont know what is happening .. some who wonder what is happening .. and people from the streets that make things happen.. I saw a demonstration.. that went real bad this guy name Armon Singleton was doing a demonstration on self defense and he was teaching stuff about how the body works, weak points, and stuff.. i wondered how much fighting experiance this guy had.. Just one mili second that i had the thought about this. some mexican dud with a tang top is beating the shit out of this so called master of self defense.. it was funny but it was so embarresing.. everyone was in that .. breaking it up.. and armon sinletons camp was trying to break it up. He was bleeding.. and the dude that attacked was kidda ripped.. tatooed up.. then i said.. this guy is a joke .. poor guy.. lol .. then i remember everything we are talking about... about this martial arts and that... and it's not what u know it's just whos on they toes.. I've been in gangs.. and i can tell u there is a THOUSANDS OF "TANK ABBOTTS" walking around Los Angeles.. So how is your style gonna deal with them if you aint open minded and stay traditional??? Jesus.. i still feel sorry for him... lol __________________ Last edited by crazyjoe380; 10-29-2002 at 10:52 AM.

10-28-2002, 10:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
robertlee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	good point you are probably right. and there is alot of fighters out there who can do the job with the no rules fight thats the part that is forgotten just like the boxer trains to fight the boxer A m/a person should not forget the streets or he will be surprised possilble one day __________________ r.lee

10-28-2002, 10:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i was telling my muay thai teacher and he freakin laughed his ass off.. lol.. __________________

10-28-2002, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Brokenmace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 259 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've known folks in gangs before. They were early reps of the first chapters in my region. This was back in maybe '93 or '94. They were out of it before I knew them. Truth is, nobody bothers with h2h, except for beat ins. Not out here, anyway. It's more like drive by the guys house real slow and gat it. Or sneak up behind the guy and knife him (more likely just shoot him, though). They don't give you a chance, because you might have the gun, or be the Tank Abbott. Honestly, I doubt many folks expect to survive a gang encounter -- a real gang encounter. We train to beat random drunks, bar brawlers, muggers, rapists, and to do what we have to when nothing else works. Going up against five thug mofos with Tek 9s isn't going to work. Just accept it. Run. You'll probably still die though. Yes, even you marathon men. LOL I stay away from bad parts of town, and I don't carry a lot of cash. All my cards have my face on them. I carry a knife, a telescopic baton, and a kubaton at all times. If I see five guys who look like they want trouble, I'll do my best to not be noticed. __________________ A broken mace is still a weapon.

10-28-2002, 11:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
NuffSpeed Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Babylon Posts: 110 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thats N.W.A or Eazy E aint it? __________________ It only takes a single grain of sand to change the world.

10-28-2002, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Suzuki_Fanboy Novice Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 73 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	whoa, that would be the ultimate embarassment... and you're out of gangs right now, aren't you? if not, you should leave anyways...nothing but trouble

10-29-2002, 10:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	that's doctor dre... but he got that from some guy.. he just changed it to "streets" cause that's what he is talking about and that is what i'm talking about.. __________________

10-29-2002, 02:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
robertlee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	multiple is one thing single another To have to fend off more then one attacker is never that easy. But the subject was a single sudden attack sure he may have been caught off guard.. That may have been a possible to way in, I have said several times sometimes its best to walk and do what you must This was a do what you must time thats what is being said People forget the wild looping haymaker, thesudden flurry of punches that a street fighter employes. Why because you get used to the way you train. and the type of people you train with they are not out to beat you down. Where the real deal is. Add that idea to the training . remember what you have seen have done and at least periododicly bring it up in the training sessions to knock a little rust off . No one can be sure they are ready for the fight all they can do is keep there wits and let the course develop the actions A street fighter is impulsive he gets done to business fast . So you need to train for quick manouvers that will help defend this action nothing is best but if you trained towards this you can respond better I was told in a martail art class who do you think is your worst oppent is several poeple said different things . The instructor then said the new student was . Why because he is untrained in his skills so you do not know what he is going to do when he attacks. Thats the street fighter I never forgot what was said because he was right __________________ r.lee

10-29-2002, 03:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ryu (JKD?) Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 623 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Self-Defense is all about environmental awareness, de-escalation, pre-emptive strikes, adrenaline dump, and the shock of surprise attacks and weapons. Anyone teaching "self-defense" has to understand that, and also have experience under his belt. That means you're a fighter, not a technical "martial artist." Hey, Joe, if the mexican guy attacked me and I shot him in the face would you still consider me a "self-defense" guy? Ryu P.s. I've never heard of this guy. Who is he and what does he teach? __________________ Sekkendo...

10-29-2002, 04:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'd consider you a gangsta.. ^^^^^ lol he made his own style from what he learned in kempo karate, and some other shit.. i couldn't find him on the internet search.. he must be a dud.. so is this style of fighting.. lol that mexican fool was down as hell but he didn't fight that well.. i would have f.ucked him up.. but .. that's the way the fist bounces.. of that dudes face...lol __________________

10-29-2002, 07:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	LMFAO, that's some funny shit! Should be done more often! It would expose all the phoney "self-defense experts" around who make money off their bullshit.

10-31-2002, 01:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i still feel sorry for him.. that's kinda f.ucked up.. i'm too nice to expose his ass.. i'm glad he did.. hahaha who ever he was.. orale homes! gracias.. __________________

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