Escaping from Knee on Stomach

terry · 10-29-2002, 01:32 PM

Any pointers for escaping from knee on stomach when you have a big guy (aka >280 lbs. blue belt) using a lot of downward pressure and pulling/controlling both belt and sleeve? Last night I couldn't get out and I couldn't breathe either. What a lousy way to spend an hour.

Terry

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 02:18 PM

ESCAPE FROM KNEE ON STOMACH

I use a few different ways. All are based on getting your hip out. To me, it's not a very stable position, especially if theguy us trying to strike you. He leaves MUCH space where you can even sneak a leg in and throw him back into an ankle lock. Also, if he attempts to spin to the other side of you he has absolutlely ZERO control over your legs and heis a sitting duck for a head scissor attempt. Whether you naiil it or not you should be out of there.

Another way is to clinch him if he's tight and grapevine his leg nearest your leg. Raise it up as you slide out.

Tony C.

^^

good advice..

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 02:23 PM

http://www.geocities.com/josephgarza/tech027.html

this is what you were in right terry??

this is ruff!

try preventing it..

http://bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech14a/

terry · 10-29-2002, 02:35 PM

Well, he passed the guard and got to side control. (I made him work for it, but he finally got it.) Then, when he went to knee on stomach he had a more upright posture. He wasn't hitting. He was just mashing my solar plexus with his knees and controlling me with hands. His posture was pretty good too, so I couldn't pull him over. He took his right hand and grabbed my belt while he grabbed my left arm with his left hand. He basically did an upright row with my body while dropping all his weight into my solar plexus--which sucks.

I was trying to push off his knee and shrimp off to my right side and create some space to engage my legs. But I couldn't get it.

When I brought my left leg up to try to get a leg over he just switched positions to punish me with his left knee instead of his right for a while.

Anyway, I couldn't solve it. Oh well, at least I didn't barf on the mat. (Felt like it though after a while.)

T

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 02:41 PM

http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...gsidemount.htm
http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...sidemount2.htm

http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...sidemount4.htm
Try not to get him there.. ^^^

you can say.. i dont wanna get punched in the face and get knocked out.. in muay thai right? so .. dont let him.. block that punch..

same thing.. u just gotta practice..
it's good to practice with him cause he's better then you and if you get used to him you wont notice you went up in skill level till you fight someone not better then you and you drop the knee on his stomach and on and on and on.. lol

terry · 10-29-2002, 02:47 PM

Oh, I'm with ya. I have no prob payin' my dues. Just next time I wanna have a better chance of gettin him.

Thx,

T

crazyjoe380 · 10-29-2002, 03:32 PM

hips have alot to do with it..

i was stupid in jiu jitsu too..
they kept telling me.. use your hips.. use your hips..

i was there stupid like "duhhh"

i understand the concept of jiu jitsu now.. i have to get better..

smalldog · 11-09-2002, 10:58 AM

Turn towards him and push his knee off with your top hand and slide your hips out at the same time.Basically post the hand on his knee and use your feet to bump,then pivot your hips out from under him.The most important part of most every escape is making space so you can move.So the bump to get space under you is very important.

10-29-2002, 01:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Escaping from Knee on Stomach Any pointers for escaping from knee on stomach when you have a big guy (aka >280 lbs. blue belt) using a lot of downward pressure and pulling/controlling both belt and sleeve? Last night I couldn't get out and I couldn't breathe either. What a lousy way to spend an hour. Terry

10-29-2002, 02:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ESCAPE FROM KNEE ON STOMACH I use a few different ways. All are based on getting your hip out. To me, it's not a very stable position, especially if theguy us trying to strike you. He leaves MUCH space where you can even sneak a leg in and throw him back into an ankle lock. Also, if he attempts to spin to the other side of you he has absolutlely ZERO control over your legs and heis a sitting duck for a head scissor attempt. Whether you naiil it or not you should be out of there. Another way is to clinch him if he's tight and grapevine his leg nearest your leg. Raise it up as you slide out. Tony C. ^^ good advice.. __________________

10-29-2002, 02:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.geocities.com/josephgarza/tech027.html this is what you were in right terry?? this is ruff! try preventing it.. http://bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech14a/ __________________ Last edited by crazyjoe380; 10-29-2002 at 02:28 PM.

10-29-2002, 02:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...gsidemount.htm http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...sidemount2.htm http://www.royharris.com/techniques/...sidemount4.htm Try not to get him there.. ^^^ you can say.. i dont wanna get punched in the face and get knocked out.. in muay thai right? so .. dont let him.. block that punch.. same thing.. u just gotta practice.. it's good to practice with him cause he's better then you and if you get used to him you wont notice you went up in skill level till you fight someone not better then you and you drop the knee on his stomach and on and on and on.. lol __________________

10-29-2002, 03:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hips have alot to do with it.. i was stupid in jiu jitsu too.. they kept telling me.. use your hips.. use your hips.. i was there stupid like "duhhh" i understand the concept of jiu jitsu now.. i have to get better.. __________________

10-29-2002, 02:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, he passed the guard and got to side control. (I made him work for it, but he finally got it.) Then, when he went to knee on stomach he had a more upright posture. He wasn't hitting. He was just mashing my solar plexus with his knees and controlling me with hands. His posture was pretty good too, so I couldn't pull him over. He took his right hand and grabbed my belt while he grabbed my left arm with his left hand. He basically did an upright row with my body while dropping all his weight into my solar plexus--which sucks. I was trying to push off his knee and shrimp off to my right side and create some space to engage my legs. But I couldn't get it. When I brought my left leg up to try to get a leg over he just switched positions to punish me with his left knee instead of his right for a while. Anyway, I couldn't solve it. Oh well, at least I didn't barf on the mat. (Felt like it though after a while.) T

10-29-2002, 02:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, I'm with ya. I have no prob payin' my dues. Just next time I wanna have a better chance of gettin him. Thx, T

11-09-2002, 10:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
smalldog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 42 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Turn towards him and push his knee off with your top hand and slide your hips out at the same time.Basically post the hand on his knee and use your feet to bump,then pivot your hips out from under him.The most important part of most every escape is making space so you can move.So the bump to get space under you is very important.

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