Fighting Guard in Sport JJ

GuardMaster · 10-30-2002, 04:16 PM

To those who like using the guard position, some thought provoking questions. Whats your strategy on using it against opponents who are versed in passing guard and also in obtaining posture from within the guard position?

Of course if your fighting the newer students its easy to get them in a sweep or submission but once they get good at posture or passing, the guard game becomes more of a challenge. How do you stay ahead of the game at that point? Any tips and strategies?

This is mainly for Sport JJ.

crazyjoe380 · 10-30-2002, 04:35 PM

If i'm in the guard...

i'd strike his nuts.. watch him as him eyes go behind his head.. then mount him and creamate him..

GuardMaster · 10-30-2002, 05:06 PM

I meant if your USING guard

crazyjoe380 · 10-30-2002, 05:57 PM

in combat or in sport?

In combat i'd get off the guard unless i knew he was a real weak fighter.. then i'd arm lock him.. other then that i'd fight him off preventing his fists or him attacking my nuts..

the other thing.. well..

old news..

i like talking about combat situations.. but people will reply

Ice Phoenix · 11-03-2002, 01:21 AM

Crossover, Shinblock, Heavylegs, Pendulum, Rollover. There's some guard-pass defenses for you to ask your instructor about.

MrPoopy · 11-03-2002, 06:27 PM

I try to avoid the guard whenever I can. I use it only if there is no other way out. When you find someone in your guard, it generally means your on the run.

punk000 · 11-07-2002, 08:16 AM

well im not a jj fighter but i intend on bieng one and sometimes do submission fights (for fun with friends) and i had someone in the guard.... well he stood up to try and break it so i tried for a sweep, id seen it a few times b4 and gotten it to work once or twice... and right before he fell he leaned around and stoped my nose..... HOLY CRAP THAT HURTS, well we liked tha move so much that we started to play around with it and we realised once u have someone in the guard you can pretty much always stamp there face in.. so i dont use it any more

Ice Phoenix · 11-07-2002, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punk000
well im not a jj fighter but i intend on bieng one and sometimes do submission fights (for fun with friends) and i had someone in the guard.... well he stood up to try and break it so i tried for a sweep, id seen it a few times b4 and gotten it to work once or twice... and right before he fell he leaned around and stoped my nose..... HOLY CRAP THAT HURTS, well we liked tha move so much that we started to play around with it and we realised once u have someone in the guard you can pretty much always stamp there face in.. so i dont use it any more

Yeah right. Try stomping the face of a "real" BJJ fighter and let me know how it goes. If you don't know what you're doing, that sort of shit can happen.

terry · 11-07-2002, 03:56 PM

I've just been working on basics: simple stuff like arm bar, omo plata and triangle, choke and once the guard opens spider guard, sweeps, etc. Nothin' fancy tho.

punk000 · 11-07-2002, 06:59 PM

lol true, maybe i should learn some bjj... but for now. i like a 3d face :P

Martial Artist · 11-10-2002, 09:59 PM

There are several ways to break posture. Grab behind his elbows and pull, and even pull in with your legs too. When I rolled with Ryron at the Gracie Academy, OPENING his guard was complete hell. Base has a lot to do.

If a person gets posture and opens your guard, play open guard with them or something. Learning how to play the guard comes with one thing, MAT TIME.

crazyjoe380 · 11-11-2002, 01:09 AM

watching kasushi sakaraba fight the gracies with him in their guard proved that the guard doesn't work in fighting.. unless your that good..

you just rise up and punch...

muay thai works better on that note.. cause look at v. silva.. f.ucked sakuraba in the first fight..

Martial Artist · 11-12-2002, 09:37 AM

Minotauro and Bustamante have a very effecient guard.

10-30-2002, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
GuardMaster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 207 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fighting Guard in Sport JJ To those who like using the guard position, some thought provoking questions. Whats your strategy on using it against opponents who are versed in passing guard and also in obtaining posture from within the guard position? Of course if your fighting the newer students its easy to get them in a sweep or submission but once they get good at posture or passing, the guard game becomes more of a challenge. How do you stay ahead of the game at that point? Any tips and strategies? This is mainly for Sport JJ.

10-30-2002, 04:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If i'm in the guard... i'd strike his nuts.. watch him as him eyes go behind his head.. then mount him and creamate him.. __________________

10-30-2002, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
GuardMaster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 207 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No your using guard I meant if your USING guard

10-30-2002, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	in combat or in sport? In combat i'd get off the guard unless i knew he was a real weak fighter.. then i'd arm lock him.. other then that i'd fight him off preventing his fists or him attacking my nuts.. the other thing.. well.. old news.. i like talking about combat situations.. but people will reply __________________

11-03-2002, 06:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I try to avoid the guard whenever I can. I use it only if there is no other way out. When you find someone in your guard, it generally means your on the run. __________________ MrPoopy

11-03-2002, 01:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Crossover, Shinblock, Heavylegs, Pendulum, Rollover. There's some guard-pass defenses for you to ask your instructor about.

11-07-2002, 08:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
punk000 Novice Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: montreal canada Posts: 59 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	stomped well im not a jj fighter but i intend on bieng one and sometimes do submission fights (for fun with friends) and i had someone in the guard.... well he stood up to try and break it so i tried for a sweep, id seen it a few times b4 and gotten it to work once or twice... and right before he fell he leaned around and stoped my nose..... HOLY CRAP THAT HURTS, well we liked tha move so much that we started to play around with it and we realised once u have someone in the guard you can pretty much always stamp there face in.. so i dont use it any more __________________ TRY AND BEAT ME!!!!! "I know tea-bo"

11-07-2002, 03:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've just been working on basics: simple stuff like arm bar, omo plata and triangle, choke and once the guard opens spider guard, sweeps, etc. Nothin' fancy tho.

11-07-2002, 06:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
punk000 Novice Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: montreal canada Posts: 59 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	lol true, maybe i should learn some bjj... but for now. i like a 3d face :P __________________ TRY AND BEAT ME!!!!! "I know tea-bo"

11-10-2002, 09:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	There are several ways to break posture. Grab behind his elbows and pull, and even pull in with your legs too. When I rolled with Ryron at the Gracie Academy, OPENING his guard was complete hell. Base has a lot to do. If a person gets posture and opens your guard, play open guard with them or something. Learning how to play the guard comes with one thing, MAT TIME. __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

11-11-2002, 01:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	watching kasushi sakaraba fight the gracies with him in their guard proved that the guard doesn't work in fighting.. unless your that good.. you just rise up and punch... muay thai works better on that note.. cause look at v. silva.. f.ucked sakuraba in the first fight.. __________________

11-12-2002, 09:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
Martial Artist Advanced Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 536 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Minotauro and Bustamante have a very effecient guard. __________________ "Kerr should sparr Mike Tyson because they have talked before on the phone" Tape Lord

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