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Thread: Wing Chun Kung Fu.....waste of time and $

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    I think Wing Chun would be far more effective if you restricted it to lightning fast bil jee finger thrusts, aimed at the eyes and the throat. But, of course, you could end up in jail for attacking in such a brutal manner.

    Fights would last for 2 seconds, and opticians would lose another future customer.

    Thats the thing with the UFC's and the MMA in general. They are civilised, and do not allow such strikes. Perhaps Wing Chun would have a chance of coming up top dogs if they did, though your pool of competitors would run low.


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    Thats the thing with the UFC's and the MMA in general. They are civilised, and do not allow such strikes. Perhaps Wing Chun would have a chance of coming up top dogs if they did, though your pool of competitors would run low.


    Or they would start using the same techniques. That's the flaw with saying: "if they were allowed to do this or that". If you take them out of their game, they come up with a new game. You may catch the first guy off guard, but the rest will incorporate (if they're smart).


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    i plan on competing here in about 1.5-2 years using WC.
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    Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself.
    Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility
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    MD wrote:

    i plan on competing here in about 1.5-2 years using WC.



    Best of luck to you. Keep us posted on your prep and fight date.


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    I had a look at the listing of all the fighters. There is one fighter that uses WC .. and hes not losing all his fights.

    There are not many karate entrants but they seem to be doing ok as well. Its mostly BJJ, freestyle and streetfighters .. oh and wrestlers, that enter this. So yeh good luck as well I would be interested In watching this so keep us updated.

    Also there is one TKD guy also, he won 1 lost 0 .. so thats pretty sweet too.

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    Gracias

    thanx bro's! I'm training pretty hard right now after being out of it for about 3 weeks. I'll post info on here whenever things get set up. I plan on attending as a spectator at the next even. I let ya guys know how that turns out.
    Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim.
    Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself.
    Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility
    - Wong Shun Leung

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    William - you are right. But the WC guys would win early on, like the Gracies did at first (until everyone copied them). In striking competitions the Thai Boxers won just about every fight, but then started getting beaten by people from other styles. But the people from these other styles were using a great deal of Thai Boxing......so they weren't really from "other styles" anymore.

    Jessie - The thing is, no matter what style they claim to have, they train in techniques from others styles. I mean, look at UFC3. Kimo the lunatic was down as a TKD guy. He was very effective (Especially since it seems to me he was steroided up for Jesus....) but I didn't see any actual TKD in his fighting on the day. So what style they claim to represent becomes increasingly irrelevant.

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    Yeh thats true in alot of cases.

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    [URL=http://martialartinstitute.com/todays_topic_9_applied_wing_chun_in_thailand.htm [/URL]

    Just found this.

    Quite interesting

    Cheers people
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    I found and downloaded some videos of wingchun and other martial art clips from mcdojo.com

    I have to say some of the wingchun there is shite! no wonder people think its crap.


    Their latest vid is of a Karate vs a BBJ, interesting to watch. check it out!
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    hahaha, I saw that Wing Chun video. That is a sad sad example, but rather funny nonetheless.
    Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim.
    Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today, whether it be a nuclear missle or a .38 special, is created for self-defense should look a little more closely at his own image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving himself.
    Wing Chun kung fu is a very sophisticated weapon--nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward, efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defense, don't study Wing Chun. It would be better for you to master the art of invisibility
    - Wong Shun Leung

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    I will agree with you there!
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