Gracie Jiu-Jitsu vs. BJJ - Page 4

CrushingFist · 05-11-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CKD

Thai kicking? Ussually in a street fight it is too close for that, and they usually do not fall down. BJJ's roundhouse kick is actually derived from MT. Probaly because it has the best kicks.

BJJ's roundhouse kick really? wow cool then

Hermosa · 05-12-2004, 08:45 PM

Actually BJJ's roundhouse kick was derived from Capoeira and is quite functional.

And once again, as I've said before, there exists a time in history when Rickson, and Renzo, and all the Machado bros ALL taught at the Gracie academy side by side wearing Gracie gi's. Rorion just decided he wanted the art all to himself and actually tried to sue his cousins..crazy guy. Whats funny to me is that Rorion is advertising the Book "The Gracie Way" on his website, but this book shows the truth and has a number of different pictures of Rorion and Rickson and Rigan and Renzo all side by side united under the gracie flag. Crazy Drama!

CKD · 05-12-2004, 08:48 PM

According to the boom Mastering Jujitsu by Renzo Gracie "the roundhouse of jujitsu is derived from Thailands national art muay thai."

CrushingFist · 05-13-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermosa

Actually BJJ's roundhouse kick was derived from Capoeira and is quite functional.

And once again, as I've said before, there exists a time in history when Rickson, and Renzo, and all the Machado bros ALL taught at the Gracie academy side by side wearing Gracie gi's. Rorion just decided he wanted the art all to himself and actually tried to sue his cousins..crazy guy. Whats funny to me is that Rorion is advertising the Book "The Gracie Way" on his website, but this book shows the truth and has a number of different pictures of Rorion and Rickson and Rigan and Renzo all side by side united under the gracie flag. Crazy Drama!

So BJJ has stuff from diff. arts, cool Capoeira is nice

CrushingFist · 05-13-2004, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CKD

According to the boom Mastering Jujitsu by Renzo Gracie "the roundhouse of jujitsu is derived from Thailands national art muay thai."

So they learned Muay Thai or something and put the stuff into BJJ?

CKD · 05-13-2004, 03:57 PM

BJJ is a combination of many different arts. It has changed a lot over the years. But the core strategy is always the same despite the techniques, to get the opponent in a grappling situation and then to get into a dominant position were you can attack him and he can not attack you.

CrushingFist · 05-13-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CKD

BJJ is a combination of many different arts. It has changed a lot over the years. But the core strategy is always the same despite the techniques, to get the opponent in a grappling situation and then to get into a dominant position were you can attack him and he can not attack you.

What combinations of styles make up BJJ ?

Creeper · 05-14-2004, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NAJJFDAVE

So, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (GJJ) vs. BJJ, they are different but how?

The original reason for the name BJJ was due to Rorion trademarking the name "Gracie Jiu Jitsu" so no one else could use it. Before this there was no "BJJ" and when people started using the name BJJ there were no differences in technique from Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Just a different way to identify the fighting system without getting sued.

Helio promoted Gracie Jiu Jitsu as a way to fight, not a form as self defense. He would advertise in the news paper that he would fight anyone and people took him up on that offer.

CrushingFist · 05-14-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Creeper

The original reason for the name BJJ was due to Rorion trademarking the name "Gracie Jiu Jitsu" so no one else could use it. Before this there was no "BJJ" and when people started using the name BJJ there were no differences in technique from Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Just a different way to identify the fighting system without getting sued.

Helio promoted Gracie Jiu Jitsu as a way to fight, not a form as self defense. He would advertise in the news paper that he would fight anyone and people took him up on that offer.

Thanks. So that wasn't right ?

I saw on the IGGFK (If I spelled it right) Rorion talking about Helio is the grandmaster/founder of GJJ & some other stuff

05-12-2004, 08:45 PM	#47 (permalink)
Hermosa Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 151 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually BJJ's roundhouse kick was derived from Capoeira and is quite functional. And once again, as I've said before, there exists a time in history when Rickson, and Renzo, and all the Machado bros ALL taught at the Gracie academy side by side wearing Gracie gi's. Rorion just decided he wanted the art all to himself and actually tried to sue his cousins..crazy guy. Whats funny to me is that Rorion is advertising the Book "The Gracie Way" on his website, but this book shows the truth and has a number of different pictures of Rorion and Rickson and Rigan and Renzo all side by side united under the gracie flag. Crazy Drama! __________________ Do your best to add years to your life, but don't forget to add life to your years. ---Deepak Chopra

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05-12-2004, 08:48 PM	#48 (permalink)
CKD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 771 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	According to the boom Mastering Jujitsu by Renzo Gracie "the roundhouse of jujitsu is derived from Thailands national art muay thai."

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CKD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 771 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	BJJ is a combination of many different arts. It has changed a lot over the years. But the core strategy is always the same despite the techniques, to get the opponent in a grappling situation and then to get into a dominant position were you can attack him and he can not attack you.

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