The Ultimate in Martial Arts

ramus · 01-17-2003, 10:49 PM

I'm currently teaching myself JKD through the books JKD A to Z, and im looking for more throughs is there any martial art that i can study to add more throws and grapling to my martial arts. Also i high school wrestle so im looking to benifit that as well. Thanx! ( i also taught myself 2 kickbox)

rockinronnie · 01-19-2003, 01:00 AM

ramus, JKD IS all martial arts combined, so, by taking JKD
(even if you're self-taught), that's all you'll need.

ramus · 01-19-2003, 08:23 PM

but im looking 4 more throws and grappling skills that could also benefit my high school wrestling.

Siegfried · 01-19-2003, 10:41 PM

If you are looking for grappling skills to benefit your high school wrestling I would suggest the book Jeet Kune Do: Entering to Trapping to Grappling, by Larry Hartsell. And its sequal: Jeet Kune Do Counterattack Grappling Counters and Reversals, by Larry Hartsell and Tim Tackett. I bought mine from Amazon. But, I'm sure these books and many other grappling books can be found elsewhere though.

As far as suggested martial arts styles to expand grappling skills the only thing I can intelligently suggest is Taiji Chin Na and Shoalin Chin Na. Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming has quite a few books and videos out on these subjects.

I'd search amazon.com for things to study.

MrPoopy · 01-20-2003, 12:58 AM

I thought JKD was just taking whatever works from other martial arts and mixing it all together? Try some Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu books if you want to learn some good grappling.

aseepish · 01-20-2003, 09:51 AM

Larry Hartsell has a couple of new books out that deal with grappling and conditioning. The Royler and Renzo Gracie BJJ manual is pretty good, couple that with the video clips on sites like http://royharris.com and you'll be flying. Another good book (that I believe has a video to go with it) is Effortless Combat Throws (I'm not sure who wrote it - my copy is 10 000 miles away).

MrPoopy · 01-20-2003, 10:31 AM

There were a lot of videos on fighttraining.com but I heard the site was down or something. If it's up, there's a lot of good stuff there.

ramus · 01-20-2003, 04:46 PM

ive narrowed it down to aikido or pai lum tao please help me pick.

ramus · 01-20-2003, 06:20 PM

pai lum is alot like kempo, just found out. still dunno which to pick

Ice Phoenix · 01-25-2003, 01:12 AM

ramus, Aikido totally sucks for grappling. In fact, most agree it sucks for any self-defense or fighting situation. Pai Lum Tao, if it is anything like Kempo, also totally sucks for grappling. Get into BJJ, Lutre Livre, Submission Grappling, etc.

ramus · 01-25-2003, 06:32 PM

what about judo????

platinum_angel · 01-25-2003, 06:35 PM

yes!!! i think judo is your best bet

01-17-2003, 10:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	need help I'm currently teaching myself JKD through the books JKD A to Z, and im looking for more throughs is there any martial art that i can study to add more throws and grapling to my martial arts. Also i high school wrestle so im looking to benifit that as well. Thanx! ( i also taught myself 2 kickbox) __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-19-2003, 08:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	but im looking 4 more throws and grappling skills that could also benefit my high school wrestling. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-20-2003, 12:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought JKD was just taking whatever works from other martial arts and mixing it all together? Try some Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu books if you want to learn some good grappling. __________________ MrPoopy

01-20-2003, 09:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
aseepish Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: British Columbia Posts: 1,758 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Larry Hartsell has a couple of new books out that deal with grappling and conditioning. The Royler and Renzo Gracie BJJ manual is pretty good, couple that with the video clips on sites like http://royharris.com and you'll be flying. Another good book (that I believe has a video to go with it) is Effortless Combat Throws (I'm not sure who wrote it - my copy is 10 000 miles away). __________________ "It was about that time I realized that searching was my symbol, the emblem of those who go out at night with nothing in mind, the motives of a destroyer of compasses." -Cortázar

01-20-2003, 10:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	There were a lot of videos on fighttraining.com but I heard the site was down or something. If it's up, there's a lot of good stuff there. __________________ MrPoopy

01-19-2003, 01:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
rockinronnie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Posts: 237 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ramus, JKD IS all martial arts combined, so, by taking JKD (even if you're self-taught), that's all you'll need.

01-19-2003, 10:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Siegfried Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waveland,MS Posts: 94 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you are looking for grappling skills to benefit your high school wrestling I would suggest the book Jeet Kune Do: Entering to Trapping to Grappling, by Larry Hartsell. And its sequal: Jeet Kune Do Counterattack Grappling Counters and Reversals, by Larry Hartsell and Tim Tackett. I bought mine from Amazon. But, I'm sure these books and many other grappling books can be found elsewhere though. As far as suggested martial arts styles to expand grappling skills the only thing I can intelligently suggest is Taiji Chin Na and Shoalin Chin Na. Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming has quite a few books and videos out on these subjects. I'd search amazon.com for things to study.

01-20-2003, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ive narrowed it down to aikido or pai lum tao please help me pick. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-20-2003, 06:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	pai lum is alot like kempo, just found out. still dunno which to pick __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-25-2003, 01:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ice Phoenix Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 172 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No no no ramus! ramus, Aikido totally sucks for grappling. In fact, most agree it sucks for any self-defense or fighting situation. Pai Lum Tao, if it is anything like Kempo, also totally sucks for grappling. Get into BJJ, Lutre Livre, Submission Grappling, etc.

01-25-2003, 06:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	what about judo???? __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-25-2003, 06:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes!!! i think judo is your best bet __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

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