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Old 01-23-2003, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gaining muscle, lifting weights, and BJJ. Is it possible?

Hey guys, this is my first post and this looks like a great board. Im going to start taking a BJJ class in a couple weeks after I get final clearance from my doctor after having a shoulder surgery a couple months ago. I wanted to know who here lifts weights with the intent of gaining muscle and at the same time is taking a BJJ class or something similar. How do you balance the two activities and what can I do to maximize muscle gains while taking a BJJ class. By the way, I am very familiar with the safe intake of steroids so if that is the best route it isnt a problem.
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Old 01-24-2003, 11:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well pump yourself full of that shit then if you are immoral enough.

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Before I started taking any classes I hit the weights and still do. The one thing that I would say you should look at is not trying to do too much when you hit the weights. Now my program only has one body part per day with some cardio. The most important thing is to train hard and rest.
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I work out with weights three times a week. One thing different that I do is that I only rest thirty seconds between sets. I think that gives me a better edge for muscle endurance. I worked out with Royce Gracie a few weeks ago and he said that he did circuits with weights such as a set of squats, a set of deadlifts, then a set benches without resting between. If you've never met him, he is amazingly strong but doesn't have a lot of bulk size to slow him down.
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Well pump yourself full of that shit then if you are immoral enough.

Please try to speak intelligently regarding this subject.
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i lift before class. that gets me fairly exhausted, then after a half hour of technique we wrestle for 30-45 minutes. a good fight covers my cardio
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Are you also learn'ed in the safe usage of arsenic or Uranium 236 enimas?
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Are you also learn'ed in the safe usage of arsenic or Uranium 236 enimas?
Nice analogy however anabolic steroids are simply prescription drugs made for human use, arsenic and uranium are not. Plus I dont think any doctor would oversee the administration of arsenic or uranium like they would steroids.
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So, you have a doctor who prescribes and oversees the use of steroids just so you can train?

Do tell us who he or she is, as they will not be a doctor for much longer.

Steroids are dangerous and immoral. And you, sir, are a twat.
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I didnt mean that doctors would prescribe the drugs, I meant they would monitor your blood levels and such. Some will monitor your blood work and interpret the results if you simply ask. In America there is also such a thing as doctor-patient-confidentiality (meaning the doctor cant run to the cops after finding out you are on steroids). Youre going to have to say something better than simply "steroids are dangerous" without backing it up with facts. Its also legal in America to carry a personal amount of steroids across the border, and just as legal to import the same amount overseas. I think if it was such a huge problem the federal government certainly wouldnt allow that, now would it? Ive known way too many people who sensibly use steroids for performance enhancement and are perfectly healthy according to their Doctors and Ive also done steroids in the past with no problems, so please spare me the typical kneejerk reactions, sir.
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So, you have a doctor who prescribes and oversees the use of steroids just so you can train?

Do tell us who he or she is, as they will not be a doctor for much longer.

Steroids are dangerous and immoral. And you, sir, are a twat.
saying someone takes steroids is like saying they have a pet dog......theres hundreds of different breeds, not all steroids are anabolic......i dare you to find a profesional athlete that doesn't take some kind of steroid. The numbers are really shocking if you look at the suspected drug use in sports. Steroid testing is not as foolproof as you mite beleave, and the fact is, even if it was, theres not enough money in the system to test every athlete.

the prescrition of steroids to help with muscle injuries is common.

name your favourite profesional athlete, i would bet he is, or has, taken some sort of steroid to help his performance, only problem is its hard to prove.
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You wanted support, and you got it. Athletes today are more injury prone than those of yesteryear. Why? Many make use of steriods. These steroids strengthen and build the muscles of said athletes to unnatrual levels and at unnatural rates. The muscles grow too strong for the tendons that hold them to the bones, resulting in many an injury to both bones and soft tissue. Not to mention, shorten your life--maybe not too much of a loss for the human race. Has shoulder problems, uses steroids, and continues to use steroids--probably will wonder why he becomes injured again in not too long a time period. Maybe another side effect is a loss of brain tissue ?
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Its also legal in America to carry a personal amount of steroids across the border, and just as legal to import the same amount overseas
Can you tell me where you heard that from?
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That would probably be something like a steroid based prescription for an asthma inhaler. Try to bring something other than a prescription across the border and you'll be getting the body cavity search that you never wanted.

Long term effects of steroid use? Things like "bitch tits", hair loss, higher aggression levels (can get you in a lot of trouble), shorter temper (can get you in a lot of trouble), joint damage, and some other, more serious things.
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Well pump yourself full of that shit then if you are immoral enough.

Who are you to say what is moral or immoral? A person is going to do what they want or what they feel they need to reach their goals. Don't critisize him because his ways don't agree with yours. He is free to take any risk that he wants to with his own body, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Give him credit for wanting to better himself and trying to do something about it.
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