Which should I learn? - Page 3

kh_s · 02-01-2003, 12:53 PM

Tai Chi For self defence, and have air waves coming out of your hands with very slow movements or something ? :P I thought Tai Chi was just an exercise for old people to get them relaxed. No Offence to anybody who takes Tai Chi but I doubt anyone here takes Tai Chi as a self defence.

ramus · 02-01-2003, 01:30 PM

judo uses to many sleeve grabs, and it sounds more like a sport.

Siegfried · 02-01-2003, 01:55 PM

I know a priest that takes taichi for self-defence. I'm not sure what style it is but he is a pretty good fighter when you consider that he is still a novice. Of course you don't have energy waves coming out of your hands and taichi people, real ones, when fighting, are very fast. I don't think you know anything about taichi kh_s so don't try giving advise about it, please, for the sake of others.

kh_s · 02-02-2003, 01:01 AM

Sry but still and I didn`t give advice. I just gave an opinion with no proof

It`s like putting down TKD when you haven`t met a "REAL" TKD fighter.

Kingston · 02-02-2003, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by kh_s
Tai Chi For self defence, and have air waves coming out of your hands with very slow movements or something ? :P I thought Tai Chi was just an exercise for old people to get them relaxed. No Offence to anybody who takes Tai Chi but I doubt anyone here takes Tai Chi as a self defence.

lol Kh_s you crack me up

kh_s · 02-03-2003, 05:30 PM

Siegfried, sry to put down Tai Chi but do you have any video clips of how they fight, "Real Ones" ? I want to see them "fight fast". It gets my attention when I hear about how people fight.

Siegfried · 02-03-2003, 09:45 PM

I'll try to look for some kh_s. But I'm serious the ones that practice taichi for selfdefence are very fast and they practice chin na(siezing, controling) as well and have a pretty well rounded self defence method. I'll try to video tape my upcoming fight with a "taichi" priest, if he will agree to fighting me and video taping his ass kicking.

MrPoopy · 02-03-2003, 10:59 PM

I don't know anything much about tai chi, but way back when I did isshinryu karate my instructor told me just a little bit about it. I think they do a lot of internal striking don't they?

lau gar · 02-04-2003, 11:37 AM

chen style tai chi chuan for sd

ramus · 02-04-2003, 07:24 PM

ive narrowed it down to aikido or pai lum tao

platinum_angel · 02-04-2003, 09:51 PM

pai lum tao

Hulk · 02-05-2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by ramus
ive narrowed it down to aikido or pai lum tao

u should ask yourself what u want and why? or why u dont want it. You'll come to a choice in no time... or maybe u'll find something else to do.

Monkey · 02-10-2003, 11:17 AM

http://www.pailum.com/Pai38.htm

Enough said.

Pai Lum is phukking bullshit.

I think the best combination is Jiu Jitsu, boxing and wrestling, in that order of importance.

However, of those three, Judo is DEFINATELY the best.

chris davis 200 · 02-10-2003, 12:19 PM

if your looking for a quick fix to a problem then judo and a srtriking art are probley best, if you are looking to be a real good fighter after some years and continue to be into old age then i would go for BaGua Chang, hsing I Chuan, or tai chi chuan, all are chinese internal arts and are very good for self defence but take a number of years to achieve profficiancy.

Hsing I chuan will get you there quickest.

Tai chi will get you there with better health.

Ba gua will get you there with some major fight skills and health benefits.

If you would like to see Ba gua in action go to www.energyart.com and look in the ba gua section under fighting. there is a movie there of kumar taking unrehearsed attacks.

He has taken challanges from most styles of martial arts which kinda shows what ba gua is made of.

I have his Yang Tai Chi fighting video and he takes unrehearsed attacks throughout and embarrises tw Tae Kwon do instructors!!

one thing you may find a problem is finding an instructor capable of getting you there, they are few and far between.

Quote:

Pai Lum is phukking bullshit.

correct.

Cheers
Chris

PA12 · 02-10-2003, 01:42 PM

Jiu Jitsu and wing chun are the two i want to learn.

Given Jiu Jitsu will give you realistic grappling and joint locks and wing chun will be like boxing but teaches you the attack/defend at the same time (something bruce liked) plus basic footwork and low and mid kicks.

Well, my friend said he liked Wing Chun and my dad likes Jiu Jitsu (from his life experiences).

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02-01-2003, 12:53 PM	#31 (permalink)
kh_s Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 408 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hahaha Tai Chi For self defence, and have air waves coming out of your hands with very slow movements or something ? :P I thought Tai Chi was just an exercise for old people to get them relaxed. No Offence to anybody who takes Tai Chi but I doubt anyone here takes Tai Chi as a self defence.

02-01-2003, 01:30 PM	#32 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	judo uses to many sleeve grabs, and it sounds more like a sport. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-01-2003, 01:55 PM	#33 (permalink)
Siegfried Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waveland,MS Posts: 94 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I know a priest that takes taichi for self-defence. I'm not sure what style it is but he is a pretty good fighter when you consider that he is still a novice. Of course you don't have energy waves coming out of your hands and taichi people, real ones, when fighting, are very fast. I don't think you know anything about taichi kh_s so don't try giving advise about it, please, for the sake of others. __________________ aka KENJI Lover of the Playstation 2

02-03-2003, 05:30 PM	#36 (permalink)
kh_s Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 408 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Video clips Siegfried, sry to put down Tai Chi but do you have any video clips of how they fight, "Real Ones" ? I want to see them "fight fast". It gets my attention when I hear about how people fight.

02-02-2003, 01:01 AM	#34 (permalink)
kh_s Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 408 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sry but still and I didn`t give advice. I just gave an opinion with no proof It`s like putting down TKD when you haven`t met a "REAL" TKD fighter.

02-03-2003, 09:45 PM	#37 (permalink)
Siegfried Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waveland,MS Posts: 94 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll try to look for some kh_s. But I'm serious the ones that practice taichi for selfdefence are very fast and they practice chin na(siezing, controling) as well and have a pretty well rounded self defence method. I'll try to video tape my upcoming fight with a "taichi" priest, if he will agree to fighting me and video taping his ass kicking. __________________ aka KENJI Lover of the Playstation 2

02-03-2003, 10:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
MrPoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ks Posts: 782 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't know anything much about tai chi, but way back when I did isshinryu karate my instructor told me just a little bit about it. I think they do a lot of internal striking don't they? __________________ MrPoopy

02-04-2003, 11:37 AM	#39 (permalink)
lau gar Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 6 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	chen style tai chi chuan for sd

02-04-2003, 07:24 PM	#40 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ive narrowed it down to aikido or pai lum tao __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-04-2003, 09:51 PM	#41 (permalink)
platinum_angel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: heaven and hell Posts: 714 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	pai lum tao __________________ In order to experience true peace you must first overcome true hardship. remember the wind, for it flows through all of us. I like smeg-ma chips. for all those who i offend............i don't give a shit

02-10-2003, 11:17 AM	#43 (permalink)
Monkey Novice Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.pailum.com/Pai38.htm Enough said. Pai Lum is phukking bullshit. I think the best combination is Jiu Jitsu, boxing and wrestling, in that order of importance. However, of those three, Judo is DEFINATELY the best. __________________ ________________________________ If ya say ya heard my rhymes We gonna have to fight Coz I just made the mother- ****ers up last night - DJ Run

02-10-2003, 01:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
PA12 Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jiu Jitsu and wing chun are the two i want to learn. Given Jiu Jitsu will give you realistic grappling and joint locks and wing chun will be like boxing but teaches you the attack/defend at the same time (something bruce liked) plus basic footwork and low and mid kicks. Well, my friend said he liked Wing Chun and my dad likes Jiu Jitsu (from his life experiences).

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