your opinion of the greatest fighters of all time - Page 3

swan104 · 03-22-2003, 09:03 AM

Oh, Buffy needs to be included in the list too!

She can fight me anyday!

Steven

dragonboy · 03-22-2003, 11:36 AM

the greatest fighter.....joe lewis

kungfupanda · 03-22-2003, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shasan
Bruce Lee should definitely be up there. I liked his escape from the armbar just bite down on the guy's leg

This is a question more than an opinion.

Regarding Sakuraba, didn't he get shalacked by Vanderlei Silva? And Vanderlei Silva was shalacked by Vitor Belfort.

I've seen a couple of his fights, and if Saku deserves to be on the list, so does Vitor at the same, if not higher, level.

thoughts?

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/d...m?fighterid=84

Note the conditions by whitch he lost. Doctors stop lots of fights where the actual outcome is still uncertain.

eighteenvisions · 03-22-2003, 04:17 PM

KEN FROM FIST OF THE NORTH STAR!!!!!!!!!! THAT GUY WAS BUSTING DOWN BUILDINGS WITH HIS HANDS!!!!!!!!!! AND HE ****ED EVERY ONE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

shasan · 03-22-2003, 07:52 PM

kungfu, point taken.

I guess it's tough to say who the better fighter is from analysing match outcomes. A beats B, then C beats A. You would assume that C is the best fighter.

However, that links shows that it does not follow that C can beat B or if any one of those fighters is 'better' than the other.

How DO you grade a fighter? How does a fighter become the BEST fighter? What IS a 'best fighter'?

kungfupanda · 03-22-2003, 08:25 PM

I don't think anyone can be THE BEST fighter for too long. Some hotshot is always popping up and getting a win streak...then he fades away fast and another joe hotshot starts to win alot then he is the best for the time being.

crazyjoe380 · 03-22-2003, 08:39 PM

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crazyjoe380 · 03-22-2003, 08:47 PM

YeLLa-TiGeR · 03-23-2003, 07:43 PM

Bruce Lee was a great innovator of MA and had great ideas "outside the box." He is a true pioneer of modern MA. But hardly a fighter. I do not say this to soil his reputation, but Bruce Lee was bigger than a fighter. The ideas he introduced were so radical for his time. He was a Martial Artist and an actor.

kungfupanda · 03-23-2003, 11:45 PM

Hey joe...who is that below De La Hoya? Who is that above Tyson?

crazyjoe380 · 03-24-2003, 02:05 AM

^^^

rickson gracie.. above tyson is joe frazier..

crazyjoe380 · 03-24-2003, 02:18 AM

Gene LeBell

Roy Jones Jr.

chris davis 200 · 03-24-2003, 06:25 AM

Dong hai chuan, founder of ba gua and undefeated.

Wang shu chin, undefeated Ba gua master who took challenges from any style. Early this century he would break peoples spines as a way to finish encounters quickly! There is more to fighting than competition!!

cheers
chris

kungfupanda · 03-24-2003, 03:53 PM

Benny "The Jet" Urquidez

Mas Oyama

Dan Inosanto

03-22-2003, 04:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
eighteenvisions Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: HELLEVUE,NE Posts: 111 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	GREATEST FIGHTER .......PERIOD........ KEN FROM FIST OF THE NORTH STAR!!!!!!!!!! THAT GUY WAS BUSTING DOWN BUILDINGS WITH HIS HANDS!!!!!!!!!! AND HE ****ED EVERY ONE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

03-22-2003, 07:52 PM	#35 (permalink)
shasan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 223 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	kungfu, point taken. I guess it's tough to say who the better fighter is from analysing match outcomes. A beats B, then C beats A. You would assume that C is the best fighter. However, that links shows that it does not follow that C can beat B or if any one of those fighters is 'better' than the other. How DO you grade a fighter? How does a fighter become the BEST fighter? What IS a 'best fighter'? __________________ ------------ I hate it when people quote themselves in their sigs. - shasan.

03-22-2003, 08:25 PM	#36 (permalink)
kungfupanda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't think anyone can be THE BEST fighter for too long. Some hotshot is always popping up and getting a win streak...then he fades away fast and another joe hotshot starts to win alot then he is the best for the time being. __________________ Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

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swan104 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stoke-on-Trent/England Posts: 410 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, Buffy needs to be included in the list too! She can fight me anyday! Steven

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dragonboy Novice Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: canada Posts: 41 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	the greatest fighter.....joe lewis

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03-23-2003, 07:43 PM	#40 (permalink)
YeLLa-TiGeR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 1,148 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bruce Lee was a great innovator of MA and had great ideas "outside the box." He is a true pioneer of modern MA. But hardly a fighter. I do not say this to soil his reputation, but Bruce Lee was bigger than a fighter. The ideas he introduced were so radical for his time. He was a Martial Artist and an actor. __________________ "Nemo me impune lacssit"

03-23-2003, 11:45 PM	#41 (permalink)
kungfupanda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey joe...who is that below De La Hoya? Who is that above Tyson? __________________ Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

03-24-2003, 02:05 AM	#42 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^^^ rickson gracie.. above tyson is joe frazier.. __________________

03-24-2003, 02:18 AM	#43 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,368 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gene LeBell Roy Jones Jr. __________________

03-24-2003, 06:25 AM	#44 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dong hai chuan, founder of ba gua and undefeated. Wang shu chin, undefeated Ba gua master who took challenges from any style. Early this century he would break peoples spines as a way to finish encounters quickly! There is more to fighting than competition!! cheers chris

03-24-2003, 03:53 PM	#45 (permalink)
kungfupanda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 115 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Benny "The Jet" Urquidez Mas Oyama Dan Inosanto __________________ Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

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