your opinion of the greatest fighters of all time - Page 4

Mr. Miyagi · 03-24-2003, 04:05 PM

That fat old man would 'break people's spines?'
Now that's funny.

chris davis 200 · 03-25-2003, 07:04 AM

crazy huh!

He was alot younger when he was doing that sort of thing though. but i think he was still fat! even though he is huge, he can bloody move mega mega fast! there are some videos online.

auto · 03-25-2003, 07:10 AM

The Blind Swordsman is the greatsest fighter ever. Nah, that dude with the flying guillotine. Nope, wait wait, the One Armed Boxer is the greatest. Noooooo, wrong again, the Master Cylinder from Felix the Cat--Yeah Yeah he's the greatest. Oh sh*t I'm sorry, it was Brutis Beefcake or was it Popeye? Come on guys, they are ALL decent fighters. But how can you pick one guy over another. That changes from match to match. Sometimes a guy comes back to defeat the same guy that beat him before. Also, remember centuries ago we had gladiators that fought to the death that would probably put most modern day fighters to shame-you had to be able to kill a man barehanded or with a weapon. You weren't good-you died. What better incentive to be the best fighter of all time. Talk about reality fighting.

auto · 03-25-2003, 07:18 AM

You put my Sosai, Mas Oyama in there. Not many people know about him. I trained under him when I lived in New York. Cool, really cool. I watched him kick 50 of our asses in one session. He dislocated my left shoulder with a punch(****er still bugs me to this day). We didn't use protcetive equiptment while sparring. Probably not allowed anymore I wouldn't think in this day and age of 'sue crazy 'people. He would also break ROCKS for us. And killed bulls with his bare hands. Great man-Great teacher. Rest in peace my Sosai.

chris davis 200 · 03-25-2003, 08:30 AM

Here are some more pictures of Wang.

The best fighters of the world, Westerners and Easterners, came to challenge him. Amongst them was the famous boxer Jack Dempsey.

Wang Shu-chins strength, his expertise at the martial arts and his ability to absorb direct punches without any apparent ill effect, became a legend amongst martial artists and have been written up in journals and books throughout the world.

kungfupanda · 03-25-2003, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by auto
You put my Sosai, Mas Oyama in there. Not many people know about him. I trained under him when I lived in New York. Cool, really cool. I watched him kick 50 of our asses in one session. He dislocated my left shoulder with a punch(****er still bugs me to this day). We didn't use protcetive equiptment while sparring. Probably not allowed anymore I wouldn't think in this day and age of 'sue crazy 'people. He would also break ROCKS for us. And killed bulls with his bare hands. Great man-Great teacher. Rest in peace my Sosai.

No way! Thats awsome. Id love to train under him too. He'd make you tough as a nail.

chris davis 200 · 03-25-2003, 12:10 PM

Quote:

You put my Sosai, Mas Oyama in there

The anti Karate stuff that goes on here must P!$$ you off proper then!!

Such a great and thoughroughly tough man would have had most MMA guys for breakfast!!

auto · 03-26-2003, 07:27 AM

Actually, my Sosai fought over two hundred challengers from every facet of combat and beat the majority of them in no holds barred combat. He loved to break ribs as many a wrestler will testify to.
There is a website dedicated to him if you want to check it out. http://www.kyokushinmail.com. It won't let you go direct so just click on history-from K. Matsuo in the right top column. There are a few clips of him killing a bull and some sparring. However, it was old 8mil film converted to digital so the quality is not so good.
I like the stuff on Wang too. Such a big solid man--could probably put a real good hurtin' on ya.

chris davis 200 · 03-26-2003, 07:47 AM

Oyama was a truely great fighter. I have huge respect for him.

the video files are excellent.

also found this interesting information:

There is a strong "behind the scenes" relationship between many of the top Kyokushin members and Kenji Sawai, the founder of Taiki Ken. Taiki Ken is an art of Chinese style categorized as an Internal School, as Taichi, Paqua and Xing Yi are. Some Kyokushin schools incorporate training methods of Taiki Ken, such as Ritsu Zen (Standing Zen).

Kenji Sawai is also a great fighter, useing the chinese internal arts to devestating effect. Heart strikes are the speciallity of this school i beleive!!

Cheers
Chris

auto · 03-29-2003, 07:17 AM

Thanx for the info and the respect for my Sosai.

03-25-2003, 07:10 AM	#48 (permalink)
auto Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 82 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nah! The Blind Swordsman is the greatsest fighter ever. Nah, that dude with the flying guillotine. Nope, wait wait, the One Armed Boxer is the greatest. Noooooo, wrong again, the Master Cylinder from Felix the Cat--Yeah Yeah he's the greatest. Oh sh*t I'm sorry, it was Brutis Beefcake or was it Popeye? Come on guys, they are ALL decent fighters. But how can you pick one guy over another. That changes from match to match. Sometimes a guy comes back to defeat the same guy that beat him before. Also, remember centuries ago we had gladiators that fought to the death that would probably put most modern day fighters to shame-you had to be able to kill a man barehanded or with a weapon. You weren't good-you died. What better incentive to be the best fighter of all time. Talk about reality fighting. __________________ Once you have been to hell and survived, everywhere else is heaven.

03-25-2003, 07:18 AM	#49 (permalink)
auto Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 82 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cool kungfuPanda You put my Sosai, Mas Oyama in there. Not many people know about him. I trained under him when I lived in New York. Cool, really cool. I watched him kick 50 of our asses in one session. He dislocated my left shoulder with a punch(***er still bugs me to this day). We didn't use protcetive equiptment while sparring. Probably not allowed anymore I wouldn't think in this day and age of 'sue crazy 'people. He would also break ROCKS for us. And killed bulls with his bare hands. Great man-Great teacher. Rest in peace my Sosai. __________________ Once you have been to hell and survived, everywhere else is heaven. Last edited by auto; 03-25-2003 at 07:22 AM.*

03-26-2003, 07:27 AM	#53 (permalink)
auto Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 82 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanx Actually, my Sosai fought over two hundred challengers from every facet of combat and beat the majority of them in no holds barred combat. He loved to break ribs as many a wrestler will testify to. There is a website dedicated to him if you want to check it out. http://www.kyokushinmail.com. It won't let you go direct so just click on history-from K. Matsuo in the right top column. There are a few clips of him killing a bull and some sparring. However, it was old 8mil film converted to digital so the quality is not so good. I like the stuff on Wang too. Such a big solid man--could probably put a real good hurtin' on ya. __________________ Once you have been to hell and survived, everywhere else is heaven.

03-29-2003, 07:17 AM	#55 (permalink)
auto Novice Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 82 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanx for the info and the respect for my Sosai. __________________ Once you have been to hell and survived, everywhere else is heaven.

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03-24-2003, 04:05 PM	#46 (permalink)
Mr. Miyagi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 719 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That fat old man would 'break people's spines?' Now that's funny.

03-25-2003, 07:04 AM	#47 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	crazy huh! He was alot younger when he was doing that sort of thing though. but i think he was still fat! even though he is huge, he can bloody move mega mega fast! there are some videos online.

03-25-2003, 08:30 AM	#50 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are some more pictures of Wang. The best fighters of the world, Westerners and Easterners, came to challenge him. Amongst them was the famous boxer Jack Dempsey. Wang Shu-chins strength, his expertise at the martial arts and his ability to absorb direct punches without any apparent ill effect, became a legend amongst martial artists and have been written up in journals and books throughout the world.

03-26-2003, 07:47 AM	#54 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oyama was a truely great fighter. I have huge respect for him. the video files are excellent. also found this interesting information: There is a strong "behind the scenes" relationship between many of the top Kyokushin members and Kenji Sawai, the founder of Taiki Ken. Taiki Ken is an art of Chinese style categorized as an Internal School, as Taichi, Paqua and Xing Yi are. Some Kyokushin schools incorporate training methods of Taiki Ken, such as Ritsu Zen (Standing Zen). Kenji Sawai is also a great fighter, useing the chinese internal arts to devestating effect. Heart strikes are the speciallity of this school i beleive!! Cheers Chris

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