Holy ***** is aikido like HKD

ramus · 02-12-2003, 04:57 PM

Both have continual motion theories tight, anyone else know of similarities?

Kingston · 02-12-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramus
Both have continual motion theories tight, anyone else know of similarities?

i think your misunderstanding what "continual motion" means.
i would be surprised if the execution of any of the techniques are very similar with each other. i dont know that much about either MA, but i think i know enough to say that HKD and Aikido aren't all that similar...in technique that is.....hmm, im trying to remember a HKD clip i saw a while back...Aikido seems much "calmer" and has very circular movements. lol not saying that HKD isn't any of those things...but i im almost 100% sure Aikido is not that similar to HKD.

i guess we will find out....

ramus · 02-12-2003, 05:16 PM

HKD uses aikido throws! and TKD kicks !

eXcessiveForce · 02-12-2003, 05:30 PM

yup that is pretty fair to say.

Aikido and JJ throws and locks, and TKD and Thai Kicks.

"Tada" Hapkido.

You will find many similarities between the two. But Hapkido should be more "combative" than Aikido generally.

Since Aikido is designed to promote harmony and so on. Hapkido was to be based on self defense.

ramus · 02-12-2003, 05:32 PM

We all know TKD has great kicks thats ALL it's good for anyway

chris davis 200 · 02-13-2003, 07:45 AM

HKD is more like DAito Ryu JuJutsu than Aikido, This is the art that Aikido mainly developed from and some HKD styles have tried to make a connection to Daito Ryu. There is still some debate but most theories are unsubstantiated.

This could be why it is more combative. Although Daito Ryu Aiki JuJutsu does have all the techniques of aikido involved in its sylabus, most of the early techniques are far more brutal, with pinning and locking involved to a large extent along with punches and kicks, mainly designed to off balance and strike vital points.

Cheers
Chris

Kerowyn · 02-14-2003, 08:31 PM

Yes I agree, TKD is pretty much good for kicks and nothing else, but it can get your legs conditioned if you're in a proper class, but I'd set any street fighter against a TKD blackbelt and bet anything on the streetfighter!

H@pkid0ist · 02-15-2003, 12:58 AM

HKD & Aikido have very little in common. HKD can be very agresive and is a small circle system. Even in Tomiki Aikido where they use small circles. HKD by nature is a combative system. Aikido goes by a Budist phylosophie. They do as little damage as possible while attaining their goal. As well, in Aikido the attacker is encouraged to over extent their strikes. The problem is now adays not many people do that. In Hapkido we deal with all veriety of strikes, not just encouraging them to over extend.

bigknuckle · 02-15-2003, 12:59 AM

k, im' just ...gonna defend tkd a little bit...as it gets put down so often...lets show some love...

now...tkd...and karate..and..ugh...i hate to say it cuz...well i have my reasons..."KICK BOXING"...are all very alike in... a lot of sparring...ness...

I like to think that generally people think of TKD as WTF-TkD...the silly ...WOOPS DID I SAY THAT....olympic stuff...hey the tkd i've experienced ...was not the WTF.."no punch to face okay man?" way...it was very much like the karate stuff...or kick boxing stuff..which means incorporation of arms 'n ish...i mean...you still learn chops 'n ish...and if you have good instructor you'll get plenty of fun times practicing all your tools

but i mean...i'd still bed against the tkd too..kaka...cuz for the most part, these doods will do "movie material" kicks which will miss....or not do enough, then fall down, then they lose...but ...ya ....lets not put down tkd too often....maybe 3times a week man....they take a lot of hurtin' by people like us....oh and general public ;D

oKAY..so back to the topic.....uh....ya...HKD != AIKIDO
that's just crazy man...what was it...someone just said HKD = AIKIDO + TKD
...i guess..jeez....aikido is like....super expansion art (super theory apply to your base knowledge)...ya, I mean....i could put some aikido+some karate....+ some....uh...whatever spice and name give it a wacky name like....geri-aikijutsu...

pardon my french...(japanese)

02-15-2003, 01:44 PM

HKD, TKD, Aikido.

They all have one thing in common. They don't teach you how to fight.

ramus · 02-15-2003, 02:05 PM

ouch, I mean an art that evolves over 4000 years aint possibly enough time for an art to teach you how to fight.

Great Sage · 02-17-2003, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Bri Thai
HKD, TKD, Aikido.

They all have one thing in common. They don't teach you how to fight.

Oh really?... And I suppose muay thai and BJJ are right? A streetfighter over a TKD man... Gimme a break... Most street fighters can't even fight... Granted, there are some that will win, but for every street fighter, there's a disciplined martial artist that can kick his azz.

Most people are given a false impression of the martial arts because today it's all about money. Classes are weak as well as instructors... however, the root of the martial arts hasn't changed... It's primary objective is to defend, fight etc... The true martial aritist knows this and trains for the right reasons.

Today the martial arts is getting too institutionalized for the streets... You may not be aware of it, but being taught to avoid kicking to the groin will ingrain itself in your mind, limiting your arsenal. Today it's TKD, tomorrow it will be Muay Thai or BJJ...

02-17-2003, 03:55 PM

Make your mind up. Are these things teaching people how to fight or not?

H@pkid0ist · 02-17-2003, 10:25 PM

Great Sage, don't fall into the troll trap!!!
Just do what I do, ignore him.
He may not go away, but you do not have to pay attention to him.

02-18-2003, 01:43 PM

Thats actually quite patronising. But to dismiss people as "trolls" just because they disagree with you is also quite pathetic.

Bon voyage!

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02-12-2003, 04:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	Holy * is aikido like HKD Both have continual motion theories tight, anyone else know of similarities? __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-12-2003, 05:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	HKD uses aikido throws! and TKD kicks ! __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-12-2003, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,740	yup that is pretty fair to say. Aikido and JJ throws and locks, and TKD and Thai Kicks. "Tada" Hapkido. You will find many similarities between the two. But Hapkido should be more "combative" than Aikido generally. Since Aikido is designed to promote harmony and so on. Hapkido was to be based on self defense. __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive.

02-12-2003, 05:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	We all know TKD has great kicks thats ALL it's good for anyway __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-13-2003, 07:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724	HKD is more like DAito Ryu JuJutsu than Aikido, This is the art that Aikido mainly developed from and some HKD styles have tried to make a connection to Daito Ryu. There is still some debate but most theories are unsubstantiated. This could be why it is more combative. Although Daito Ryu Aiki JuJutsu does have all the techniques of aikido involved in its sylabus, most of the early techniques are far more brutal, with pinning and locking involved to a large extent along with punches and kicks, mainly designed to off balance and strike vital points. Cheers Chris

02-14-2003, 08:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kerowyn Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5	Yes I agree, TKD is pretty much good for kicks and nothing else, but it can get your legs conditioned if you're in a proper class, but I'd set any street fighter against a TKD blackbelt and bet anything on the streetfighter! __________________ To laugh is to risk looking the fool, to love is to risk despair, to reach out is to risk rejection, to live is to risk dying.

02-15-2003, 12:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
H@pkid0ist Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton, Va. Posts: 69	HKD & Aikido have very little in common. HKD can be very agresive and is a small circle system. Even in Tomiki Aikido where they use small circles. HKD by nature is a combative system. Aikido goes by a Budist phylosophie. They do as little damage as possible while attaining their goal. As well, in Aikido the attacker is encouraged to over extent their strikes. The problem is now adays not many people do that. In Hapkido we deal with all veriety of strikes, not just encouraging them to over extend. __________________ ---2nd Dan Hap Ki Do--- Hap Ki Do: The Anti-Martial Art, Martial Art!!!

02-15-2003, 12:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
bigknuckle Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 23	k, im' just ...gonna defend tkd a little bit...as it gets put down so often...lets show some love... now...tkd...and karate..and..ugh...i hate to say it cuz...well i have my reasons..."KICK BOXING"...are all very alike in... a lot of sparring...ness... I like to think that generally people think of TKD as WTF-TkD...the silly ...WOOPS DID I SAY THAT....olympic stuff...hey the tkd i've experienced ...was not the WTF.."no punch to face okay man?" way...it was very much like the karate stuff...or kick boxing stuff..which means incorporation of arms 'n ish...i mean...you still learn chops 'n ish...and if you have good instructor you'll get plenty of fun times practicing all your tools but i mean...i'd still bed against the tkd too..kaka...cuz for the most part, these doods will do "movie material" kicks which will miss....or not do enough, then fall down, then they lose...but ...ya ....lets not put down tkd too often....maybe 3times a week man....they take a lot of hurtin' by people like us....oh and general public ;D oKAY..so back to the topic.....uh....ya...HKD != AIKIDO that's just crazy man...what was it...someone just said HKD = AIKIDO + TKD ...i guess..jeez....aikido is like....super expansion art (super theory apply to your base knowledge)...ya, I mean....i could put some aikido+some karate....+ some....uh...whatever spice and name give it a wacky name like....geri-aikijutsu... pardon my french...(japanese) __________________ u hate cuz ur dumb, "ur mom lol"

02-15-2003, 01:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	HKD, TKD, Aikido. They all have one thing in common. They don't teach you how to fight.

02-15-2003, 02:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	ouch, I mean an art that evolves over 4000 years aint possibly enough time for an art to teach you how to fight. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-17-2003, 03:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Make your mind up. Are these things teaching people how to fight or not?

02-17-2003, 10:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
H@pkid0ist Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton, Va. Posts: 69	Great Sage, don't fall into the troll trap!!! Just do what I do, ignore him. He may not go away, but you do not have to pay attention to him. __________________ ---2nd Dan Hap Ki Do--- Hap Ki Do: The Anti-Martial Art, Martial Art!!!

02-18-2003, 01:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bri Thai Guest Posts: n/a	Thats actually quite patronising. But to dismiss people as "trolls" just because they disagree with you is also quite pathetic. Bon voyage!

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