serious Training/medical question

eXcessiveForce · 02-20-2003, 08:41 PM

I have a serious question for those of you who train very seriously.

Have any of you had the following problem?

In a work out that goes to high exertion to low exertion and back to high exertion in a relatively slow period of time cause dizziness and blacking out and a flushed face but no sweating?

I have found that if I workout and do a slow build from slower low exertion activities to progressively higher exertion activities I can work out for several hours with out breaking.

But if I were to start off a work out with say a few sprints and jumping jacks and silly things like that and then stretch and then to sparring I'll be out within 10 minutes. My face will turn red, I won't sweat much, Hands fall asleep, eyes blackout and generally feel like i'm over heating.

I have always had this trouble but it has gotten worse over the years.

I have also always had a terrible time with head gear. If I wear headgear I'll be down in a few minutes. No head gear I can spar for hours.

I have always had a terrible time with overheating as well. When I was younger I could only run at 1 to 3 am because that was the coolest. I used to run 3 miles every day and I still had this problem so it is not a conditioning problem although my conditioning has gone a little down hill since I changed jobs.

Anybody had anything like this or heard of it?

Any suggestions on how I might be able to keep it from happening?

Thanks

Tory · 02-20-2003, 11:34 PM

Go to a Dr. about that one. I had a guy in my USAF unit in basic training that that happend to and it turned out his body had a hard time dealing with the lactic acid that builds up in the muscles and was also not processing blood sugars correctly.

I dont know what the correction was, all I know is he was booted from the military because of it.

JIMI · 02-21-2003, 09:19 AM

I had the same problem bro. You will not believe what i found out it was. Malnutrition!!!!!! I needed more protien and carbs and calories, and i needed to make sure and drink at least 64oz of water or more per day!!!!! Hope this helps. Keep in mind that if you are SERIOUSLY training, you should probably be taking in around 200 grams of protien a day! The way i did it was i went to GNC and bought a nice meal replacement shake mix that gave a wopping 40 grams protien per serving and 400 calories a pop. It takes a little bit for your body to adjust but i think you will see and feel a major difference. Also, VERY VERY important, go get your cholesterol checked!

Ryu (JKD?) · 02-21-2003, 10:15 AM

It an be a serious thing. One of my training partners has this, and we found out about it after he almost passed out from grappling. He has to go easy for about 6 months while taking in lots of protein, medication, etc.

Ryu

Grape_Ape · 02-21-2003, 10:53 AM

It can also be due to blood pressure problems. Either too high or too low. You should definitely consult a doctor as they can give you the best method for managing it.

Typhoon · 02-21-2003, 11:21 AM

I get the same thing as you although in very mild forms. Its not malanurtition cause as far as I know I am one of the msot healthiest eating peopel around. I drink more water and stretching and and warmign up helps not jsut going right into the hard exercises build it up. Hope this helps

02-20-2003, 08:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,763	serious Training/medical question I have a serious question for those of you who train very seriously. Have any of you had the following problem? In a work out that goes to high exertion to low exertion and back to high exertion in a relatively slow period of time cause dizziness and blacking out and a flushed face but no sweating? I have found that if I workout and do a slow build from slower low exertion activities to progressively higher exertion activities I can work out for several hours with out breaking. But if I were to start off a work out with say a few sprints and jumping jacks and silly things like that and then stretch and then to sparring I'll be out within 10 minutes. My face will turn red, I won't sweat much, Hands fall asleep, eyes blackout and generally feel like i'm over heating. I have always had this trouble but it has gotten worse over the years. I have also always had a terrible time with head gear. If I wear headgear I'll be down in a few minutes. No head gear I can spar for hours. I have always had a terrible time with overheating as well. When I was younger I could only run at 1 to 3 am because that was the coolest. I used to run 3 miles every day and I still had this problem so it is not a conditioning problem although my conditioning has gone a little down hill since I changed jobs. Anybody had anything like this or heard of it? Any suggestions on how I might be able to keep it from happening? Thanks __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive.

02-20-2003, 11:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tory Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 24	Go to a Dr. about that one. I had a guy in my USAF unit in basic training that that happend to and it turned out his body had a hard time dealing with the lactic acid that builds up in the muscles and was also not processing blood sugars correctly. I dont know what the correction was, all I know is he was booted from the military because of it. __________________ You can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time

02-21-2003, 09:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
JIMI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: salt lake city Posts: 328	I had the same problem bro. You will not believe what i found out it was. Malnutrition!!!!!! I needed more protien and carbs and calories, and i needed to make sure and drink at least 64oz of water or more per day!!!!! Hope this helps. Keep in mind that if you are SERIOUSLY training, you should probably be taking in around 200 grams of protien a day! The way i did it was i went to GNC and bought a nice meal replacement shake mix that gave a wopping 40 grams protien per serving and 400 calories a pop. It takes a little bit for your body to adjust but i think you will see and feel a major difference. Also, VERY VERY important, go get your cholesterol checked! __________________ Hit first, Hit last, Always answer back....

02-21-2003, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ryu (JKD?) Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 623	It an be a serious thing. One of my training partners has this, and we found out about it after he almost passed out from grappling. He has to go easy for about 6 months while taking in lots of protein, medication, etc. Ryu __________________ Sekkendo...

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02-21-2003, 10:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Grape_Ape Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 87	It can also be due to blood pressure problems. Either too high or too low. You should definitely consult a doctor as they can give you the best method for managing it.

02-21-2003, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
Typhoon Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	I get the same thing as you although in very mild forms. Its not malanurtition cause as far as I know I am one of the msot healthiest eating peopel around. I drink more water and stretching and and warmign up helps not jsut going right into the hard exercises build it up. Hope this helps

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