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Old 04-14-2003, 12:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has any one seen an advertisement for Native American fighting arts? I’ve of course have never heard of such a thing. Has anyone heard of this? Anyway I’ve seen a couple of these ads and there so damn hilarious I thought you all would get a laugh.

It starts off like this: “Dear friends- Right now It’s after midnight and I’ve got the joint locked up tighter than Fort Knox. Fact is… I’m pumped with adrenaline and sweating like a pig… because I would not be surprised at all if there was someone just outside the door waiting to take a shot at my head.”

“We have pissed some vary nasty people off. How? By convincing someone who knows their secrets. To share it all… on a super secret video that I am releasing one at a time.”

This is some crazy funny shit. It continues on for three pages and has stuff like this:
“Do you have any idea who is the baddest ass fighters are over the last couple of centuries? It’s not the Russians, not by a long shot. No samurai got this skilled in hand to hand. It’s not the Filipinos. Not the Vietnamese guerilla fighters. Not the mafia.”

“Nope. The most feared… most respected… and most hyper-skilled fighters who ever walked this earth…was the plains Indians.”

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“With this system you can reduce your attacker into a pile of bloody beef at your feet in seconds.”

Damn 26 years in martial arts wasted. This guy supposedly has many black belts in Asian MA but some how discovered that he was partial Indian (American Indian). Apache and Cherokee. I guess he didn’t realize that neither Cherokees or apaches are plains Indians. The picture is a white guy dressed like an American Indian. Anyway this is just too funny. Actually it’s a disgrace to real martial artists and American Indians this guy exploiting this just to make a buck. Well at least he gives a money back guarantee.

I don’t know about anyone else but this shit makes me laugh my ass off. I’ve seen ads like this before for other new secret MA, or for $129.99 you can learn the very top-secret martial art of the CIA. Who the hell buys in to this crap? Morons.

This particular add was in black belt magazine.
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Martial art of the plains Indians: the bow and arrow. HEEAAA!!! Pressure point death strike on the charging buffalo...wait...I just got trampled/gored.
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Martial art of the plains Indians: the bow and arrow. HEEAAA!!! Pressure point death strike on the charging buffalo...wait...I just got trampled/gored.
didn't they have some kind of wrestling (and maybe knifefighting)
but isn't that unstructured?
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Those adverts always make me laugh!

You can tell they are dodgy because there is always 1 to 2 pages of shit with some crappy black and white pictures in the backgorund.

I think there was one of speed punching once...

It sounds like good money. What can I teach?
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Indians werent martial artists they were warriors with weapons like knifes spears bows and arrows and hatches. This guy should be slapped for sayign he is Native American Disgrase.
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He probaly watched "brotherhood of the wolf" & had a brain spasm.
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It would be a pretty safe bet to say that YES Native americans have there own brand of MA's. Natives had intresting ways of doing things(related to combat before "the white man"), I would be intrested in seeing what Native american MA's would have to offer. Whether or not that add was accualy for a real Native american MA i dont know, sounds fake to me.
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John Perkins Author of the book "Attack proof" and creator of Ki Chuan Do. Used to practice Native america MA's. Dont know much about him. But there are Native american MA's
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Here's a native American martial art: throwing the tomahawk. Who the hell has time to perfect an unarmed style of combat when they always have a weapon, are hunting animals or fighting other humans who hold weapons, and you are constantly trying to survive?
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Wasn't American Kenpo designed by a 'Native' American? From what little I know about the man, I think Ed Parker was born and raised in America.
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A friend of mine (retired police inspector) in the Northwest ran into an old Indian guy from the Multnomah tribe and got to talking about martial arts. It sounded like a description not of an art but of a training method. Apparently, they would put a guy in the river up to his neck and throw rocks at his head. Apparently, that was supposed to be good for evasive headwork. Um, that's about all I know about native American martial arts.

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Perhaps we could do the same for Kingston?
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Here's a native American martial art: throwing the tomahawk. Who the hell has time to perfect an unarmed style of combat when they always have a weapon, are hunting animals or fighting other humans who hold weapons, and you are constantly trying to survive?
it appears i know a little more about Native american history then you do.(and i dont know much)

Some groups of Native americans where extremely war like.

just as much, if not moreso then eastern cultures they also had (compared to the east) less advanced weapons/armor, SO that would set up, in my opinion, a better breading ground for effective martial arts.

How did MA's ever get started? people have been using tools/weapons to hunt or kill each other since we came down from the trees. "why would anyone need to use there hands if they had a rock or a stick?"

question. what happens after they throw the tomahawk?
the Native americans had a much easyer time living in america then the europeans did originaly.

For the aztec and mayan (and that other one i cant remember lol) civilizations in some respects where more advanced then the Europeans that came and destroyed it.
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Kingston, it sounds like you would get something out of reading a book called "Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fate of Human Civilizations". It discusses some of the same issues that you bring up--only with a more data.
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